Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[bgt1] 18/12/2019 10:06

I thought it was you and your small team of shorters who are the crooks working the aim market.

[club sandwich] 18/12/2019 10:03

"I doubt the grant money will fund all the costs, so a fund raise looks more not less likely, but in a good cause that's not necessarily a bad thing. Time will tell..."

of course if VRS didn't have utterly incompetent mgmt the company would be generating significant recenues by now to invest in projects like that...

[supernumerary] 18/12/2019 10:03

Club - if VRS ever gets a big contract, I suspect that's when the real trouble would start, because that's when the execution risk begins, and I think Ricketts is slightly out of practice in that area.

[bgt1] 18/12/2019 10:00

Is Loglorry that Tim Kempster?

[tini5] 18/12/2019 09:56

Hi Tim,

"Sure one could be lying and the other not but I think we can safely say that anyone willing to pay VOX can say whatever they like in a podcast and there is absolutely no way to know if it is the truth.

Comments?"

Yes, absolutely. You and I may both shop at (insert shop of your choice), one of us however is a manipulative liar. Doesn't mean that everyone in the shop is also a liar.

[1teepee] 18/12/2019 09:47

Judging by all that bad language you are trying to get upvoting;)

[loglorry1] 18/12/2019 09:44

Hi brassneck2,

I think you've hit the nail on the head with your observation that VRS has never released any negative news, ever. Neill wouldn't give revenue targets as I'm sure he is aware what the effect of the share price would be when they are inevitably missed. Better to dream, surely?

I don't think the BIDS CEO was stupid, however - he just made a different strategic decision. He DID put up revenue projections he knew that he could never meet. Perhaps he took the view that it was better to create a short term super spike in which to unload his shares and it didn't matter what happened after that?

Neill has completed avoided revenue projections of any kind, or even revealing what Nanene can be sold for in commercial volumes. The VRS profile is much closer to Pursuit Dynamics, which lasted many years before it eventually died a death. Personally, if I were Neill and had a similar shareholding to him, I'd go down this route as well.

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Log, I think there is a world of difference between BIDS and VRS. BIDS has been consistently releasing warnings or negative news over recent months and missing forecasts. VRS are yet to release any negative news, ever. Of course commercial revenues aren’t there at scale yet but that ‘disappointment’ is more to do with PI impatience than any failure of the company. Very bright future with VRS, in a different league

[alchemy] 18/12/2019 09:35

Great Application de-icing.Recall that returning from Moscow in 1972 our Boeing 720b had to be de-iced. I was pretty nervous on take-off.Nearly as nervous as going out on a Comet 4 .Perception is reality, I'm getting to perceive inevitability of Great Success here. Straws are being lifted off the Camel's back. It and all it's relations will be standing up soon.

[brassneck2] 18/12/2019 09:21

Log, I think there is a world of difference between BIDS and VRS. BIDS has been consistently releasing warnings or negative news over recent months and missing forecasts. VRS are yet to release any negative news, ever. Of course commercial revenues aren’t there at scale yet but that ‘disappointment’ is more to do with PI impatience than any failure of the company. Very bright future with VRS, in a different league.

[loglorry1] 18/12/2019 09:16

"Excuse my ignorance but why was this not an RNS ?"

Hi @Kemorkid, the news is a non-regulatory RNS as it is not deemed to be material to VRS prospects. In layman's terms, that means it's another worthless collaboration. Ricketts used to release about 2 of these a month and it got people excited so the shares would go up. He sold quite a few shares into resulting spikes, happily enough. That worked very well for the BIDS CEO too, and countless others who pay promotional websites to help sell their wares.

The NOMAD probably forced this "news" to be issued as a non-regulated RNS. Personally, I think that's harsh as, in Neill's defense, the company has got a grant of €350k, which is much more than they've ever produced in graphene revenue.

[club sandwich] 18/12/2019 09:15

Simple question: where are all these sells coming from?

If I had a suspicious mind I might wonder whether Chinese entities were naked shorting to keep the price depressed and reduce the amount that BIGT has to pay for their stake.

who else would keep selling?

[festario] 18/12/2019 09:07

But smug maybe? Not unreasonable really.

[superg1] 18/12/2019 09:05

Bids tosspot fraudsters screwed over PIs, I'm not happy (or grumpy, or dopey, or bashful, before ask)

[jointer13] 18/12/2019 09:01

all about the quality.

Versarien selected for Airbus-backed Graphene Flagship project

The Graphene Flagship recently launched an Airbus-Backed Project for graphene-based thermoelectric ice protection systems. Now, Versarien announced that it has been selected to participate in that project.
The Project, which is categorized by the Graphene Flagship as a “Spearhead”, large-scale commercialization project, aims to develop graphene-based thermoelectric ice protection systems and to advance the technology readiness level of graphene in these systems.
To fund Versarien’s participation in the Project it has received approval for a €350,000 grant from the Graphene Flagship.

Neill Ricketts, CEO of Versarien, commented: “We are very pleased to be working with Airbus on this key Graphene Flagship project and to be receiving funding from the Graphene Flagship to facilitate it. This is another example of Versarien’s graphene technology being deployed in the aerospace sector, one where it has the potential to add significant value. We look forward to starting work on this project in the New Year and reporting on its progress and those of our many other commercialization projects in due course.”

[woodpeckers] 18/12/2019 08:58

kermorkid, this is a useful article explaining the different types of RNS...


Great news this morning that we are working with Airbus....once these tests are concluded what aircraft company will take the time to trial any other graphene company's product?