Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[club sandwich] 14/12/2019 14:33

"There are more club sandwiches than people realise"

you going all metaphysical on us, teepee?

there's only one Club Sandwich, mate - accept no imitations...

[superg1] 14/12/2019 14:29

Tree shake, as suspected it's an intentional move by the market makers to free up loose stock/holders.

18 mins 45 secs on.

[laginaneil] 14/12/2019 14:08

Brass, big thank you !!

[1teepee] 14/12/2019 14:06

Hi shorter scum

[grabster] 14/12/2019 13:43

brassneck2 - many thanks for your feedback from the meet-up. Not surprised it acquired over 75 upticks. (Clearly the quiet non-posters are predominently positive and easily outweigh the detractors who make so much noise here but don't really matter).

2020 looking good for Versarien shareholders.

[1teepee] 14/12/2019 13:23

There are more club sandwiches than people realise

[1teepee] 14/12/2019 13:22

Can't read anymore , you need a new avatar

[1teepee] 14/12/2019 13:11

Oh look you are a trollFiltered shorter scum

[1teepee] 14/12/2019 13:06

This thread is a reflection of society when people think no body knows who they are. It's what people are really like under their polite smiling exterior!

[superg1] 14/12/2019 12:35

So as we keep mentioning it on here. If an MM is sat in the offer and buys come in over and above what they could have picked up, then they have plenty off stock of a sell order.

We have long posted about MMs on the offer stepping over the MMs that go onto the offer having picked up a few Pi sells.

The same happens on the bid for a buy order.

Watching level 2 for so long is well worth the expense, it can save you the full subscription in minutes.

An example was yesterday 83.88 was nonsense as they would only sell something like 160 shares at that price. Funnily enough that was Winterfloods.

The 84p price was Shoc I believe who only deal in small amounts, EG they will pick up 50k or 100k and flip those.

In that interview he explains there are set caps to how much they can hold..

I know from the past Peel and Wins will take 100's of 1000's of VRS shares, the rest typically flip 50k as their limit.

So with shock sat there and Wins with 160 shares via then going onto the bid, it was obvious Shoc would be gone in a flash on any buying. Then if those behind them didn't have stock they would leap off the offer.

Which is exactly what happened yesterday.

He also talked of 2 teams, perhaps one is via Nex, Wins are the only one there.

[superg1] 14/12/2019 12:27

Yes brilliant video Lucky, so for anyone that asks what an uncrossing trade is, icebergs, dark pools where instis hide their orders etc then it's all in there.

Pretty much a full explanation of what I had picked up on re MM behaviours but nice to see it spelt out and back my thoughts.

EG on bad news trading I picked up the following.

The first time it happened (some moons ago) I didn't know what it was but got suspicious so got out. In recent weeks I tried a trade and immediately after I bought the trigger signals were there, so I immediately sold talking a small loss. It looked like the bottom, PIs were buying, then it collapsed another 50%, when the PI flow slowed up. The PIs were f'd over by hidden orders fleece at one price leaving some losing 30-50% on their buys in minutes. Mms dropped the price and wouldn't take stock

Green trades going through. I assumed after watching so many that they were hidden orders of sells, a large holder or fund that has dropped stock onto the market but you can't see it. Such trades go through at the mid price (comes up as green).

That guy in the interview explains the dark pool game, Instils doesn't want the retail market to see the order, it's hidden behind the normal market size on the screen and deals got though at the mid price.

As we all know on really large orders they then do late reports at the mid price normally after hours or the next day.

So it's not BS it's actually a good learning curve. It saved me money the other week, lost some but a lot less than if I hadn't reacted to MM strange actions and mid price trades against a flow of buyers. It looked to me that the MMs were hiding a big sell order and sure enough they were.

[festario] 14/12/2019 12:02

SuperG... drunk posting, a dangerous thing... it attracts trolls and stalkers who'll remind you of it for the next 7 years. Ha ha.

[roddiemac2] 14/12/2019 11:42

scottishfield

" good posters are a rare commodity around here " How true . A psychologist would have a field day here. Letting any investment idea take over your life is madness. Investment at best is a means of making a living.