Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[woodpeckers] 08/11/2019 19:54

Absolutely WR63, no question in my mind and anyone watching the buys and sells can see that.

[wr63] 08/11/2019 19:38

Ridicule, you say PI's can't influence the share.I would disagree, many days we see a few 10K sells at open which instantly lowers the price. Any large holder, such as yourself, could do that and with continued selling will push the share price lower. If you were cantilevering into another one of your holdings you could definitely be responsible for dropping the share price by yourself.

[woodpeckers] 08/11/2019 19:35

Alchemy, sorry, I didn't mean to upset you, you're a great supporter of the company, I know that...what I meant was that we shouldn't need to wait for the next news... the tone on this board should be one of great expectation/excitement...anyone who can't see that should do as pheonixs' friend says and move on to another eaterie!

[alchemy] 08/11/2019 19:19

I agreed with you and said when the new broom will start is benign sweep.

[alchemy] 08/11/2019 19:17

No ! The next news will be the start of the new era on this board.

[festario] 08/11/2019 18:56

Ridicule... pearls before swine I'm afraid.They should be thanking you and learning from you, but no.You won't get this type of lesson free of charge elsewhere!

[club sandwich] 08/11/2019 18:55

At Andrews Day? Of which year?

[woodpeckers] 08/11/2019 18:53

Alchemy...so every time we have a lull in news we put up with this rubbish??? Come on guys... we're better than this... this company, Neill and the team deserve more...they are working themselves in to the ground to move things along as fast as possible...show a little respect!

[alchemy] 08/11/2019 18:48

At the next news item the loose and non relevant posts will be exorcised.Imho. E o E . Gla. Only 30 days in November. A good thing.So by St Andrews Day? I did get Trafalgar Day wrong . But hey? Just getting my eye in.

[hattie1] 08/11/2019 18:47

Hallelujah to that !

[woodpeckers] 08/11/2019 18:40

Could we please talk about VRS on this thread...not methods of managing portfolios or whatever name people would like to call it.

I can't believe that we are lucky enough to be involved with such an exciting company and just because we have a bit of a lull in news we have bickering left, right and centre...

This board has been set up so that we can all share news about VRS and only for that purpose...Anyone who wants to discuss anything other than that should find another board!

Thank you.

[ridicule] 08/11/2019 18:39

All within the same stable of shares Lucky, no leakage of wealth outside the vehicle. This means all the holdings benefit from each other over time through canti-lever trades. Traders do not do that, they just cut and run. Take VRS, Neill has a number of subsidiaries he will leverage them to create the best outcome for the holding company. Canti-lever investing is exactly the same. Put another way I am probably holding around 200,000 more VRS shares today because I have canti-levered over the last 10 years, than I would have done if I had just invested and sat on the original investment. That extra 200k is underpinning your investment as well mine Lucky, be happy.

[ridicule] 08/11/2019 18:28

1teepee Berkshire Hathaway is Warren Buffets investment vehicle. He now has billions of other people's money being managed and he has spent a lifetime as one of the world's greatest investors. Not quite sure what comparison you are trying to make. My self-developed method is just that, primarily designed by me for me and it has worked for me so far. I am not advocating it for others, but explaining it to put the quite outrageous acqusations being made against me by some on this thread.

[luckyorange] 08/11/2019 18:25

T20's , selling 30% to buy another share, not trading , in denial 🤣 hole getting deeper and deeper lol.

[ridicule] 08/11/2019 18:21

Backwoodsman. No I just have the one canti-lever group. I have chopped one share as I reported over the entire period, but this should be avoided as it will include a loss by definition as the sale is force majuere. Hence it is important to research the stable quite extensively and more than one dilutes my investment funds and would take a lot more research time.

I do run a T20 subset of my canti-lever stable though. This involves watching news flow and expected news flow, AGM exhibition dates etc. and buying shares on T20 in anticipation of those events. I only started doing this a couple of years ago when I was sitting on sufficient accrued profits to be able to cover or roll over T20s that did come off. Remember, if you believe in the story and take the 5 year view transient share pricing across the stable is not critical as long as it varies sufficiently across the stable and out of sync in time terms. i.e, one goes up while the other one goes down sufficintly enough to make a canti-lever trade worthwhile. These variations happen naturally, they do not need the type of market manipulation that Lucky seems obsessed with. Indeed, if the movements are not natural, but manipulated that would be a very risky canti-lever deal because it would have been manipulated and markets have a habit of biting back when that is tried.

I hope this helps.

[kemorkid] 08/11/2019 18:19

Give examples of “woolly rnss’ Please

[barnes67] 08/11/2019 18:11

This share is going nowhere but down, failed at various levels, Company brings out constant woolly rns’s no substance in any of them, it will take years and lots more cash raises to become a big player in the sector.

Can’t see it doing anything other than keep drifting lower to 50p next year, or lower

Investors are just buying a dream here, which won’t make you money, get real please 90% of the posts are pure BS

and no, I am not looking to buy in cheaper

[1teepee] 08/11/2019 18:10

Berkshire Hathaway's shares are like$280000 each

[backwoodsman] 08/11/2019 18:06

Ridicule, that's interesting. Just so I get a bit more of the picture, do you have several groups of 4 or 5 shares or just the one?

[ridicule] 08/11/2019 17:57

1teepee Much nicer. The reason I do not incline to trackers is:

1. They are much more broadly based ( canti-lever method 5 shares max)
2. Just as negative interest rates make this a good time for Governments to borrow, the 4th industrial revolution raffec

[ridicule] 08/11/2019 17:57

1teepee Much nicer. The reason I do not incline to trackers is:

1. They are much more broadly based ( canti-lever method only 5 shares max)
2. Just as negative interest rates make this a good time for Governments to borrow, the 4th industrial revolution makes it a good time to find disruptive companies that have Unicorn characteristics and these should be the ones to include in the canti-lever stable because they can give stellar returns compared to trackers.
3. The share research tools available today and the positive networking that I do with other investors (this thread currently excepted I am afraid) on social media makes now an ideal time to independantly operate without using tracker broad stats to derisk, thereby offering substantial returns that a tracker is too broad to deliver.
4. The c-l shares are less likely to be affected by political or macro-financial events, whereas trackers can be.
5. I control the decision making process - my risk, my money.

[ridicule] 08/11/2019 17:54

Lucky, I was right. You never will get it.

[luckyorange] 08/11/2019 17:50

There you go people , cantilever isn't trading all you do is sell one and buy another , couldn't make it up jeeeeez.