Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[lovat scout] 14/8/2019 13:05

Setting up a company is easy - it’s the connections, licences etc. that’s key.

AIMHO

[grabster] 14/8/2019 12:51

Our 20 year old (VW diesel) Compass Navigator 310RL is going to have to keep crawling its way up them hills till the Versarien ship comes in :-/


Incidentally, with Beijing Versarien Technology Company Limited having now been registered, what happens with Versarien Graphene Hong Kong Limited? That never did get beyond being merely registered, as far as I know. Will it remain so? If I recall correctly it was to have become the office covering activities in other parts of S/E Asia.

[pshevlin] 14/8/2019 12:47

sandbag ...that's probably ok but make sure you get a green environmental badge as it makes life a lot easier. I stayed in Magdeburg and Bremen recently in great spots on the rivers but it was a faff following the only route I could take to get there.

[superg1] 14/8/2019 12:28

EG China

Target market/business of interest (and vice versa)
 10 point criteria analysis test for sifting – scored and
then prioritise top 3 companies for discussions (to JV)
 Still keep a ‘watching brief’ and dialogue with other
companies
 Example: Tungshu (China) – dialogue, testing, JV



In general besides China which is your point, it will be and is more now due to other news.

27 engagements are global operators within their sectors.

27 global majors and that was a while back.

This is no binary bet, it's nothing like a binary bet, they have huge names crawling all over them.

[sandbag] 14/8/2019 12:24

pshevlin,

It is a diesel. It's EURO 6 emissions which is the best at the moment. Restrictions will be mostly in cities and I have no intention of going into them.
Thanks luckyorange!

[luckyorange] 14/8/2019 12:15

Hey sandbag, it's your money and good solid honest post I hope it brings you years of pleasure when it is completed.

[sandbag] 14/8/2019 11:43

Sorry but the 19829 is actually a sell. Need some cash for a deposit on a motorhome.
Despite having enough value in 3 ISAs and a SIPP to buy several motorhomes I'm finding it difficult getting finance for the rest as I don't have a regular income. May have to sell more when the mh is finally built and delivered to buy it outright. Hope news comes soon, either that or the French manufacturers go on strike. I hate selling at these prices. BTW VRS is now 89% of my portfolio so they're the obvious ones to sell.

[1teepee] 14/8/2019 11:22

Cannabis growers will be very excited for low power led lights in Canada and wherever else its legal

[jointer13] 14/8/2019 11:21

I reckon its just about a cert..a hell of a lot of work gone into it govt..etc etc.

this should give you a clue.

"The Company can confirm that discussions between BIGT and the Company remain ongoing and that the WFOE has now been successfully incorporated as the Beijing Versarien Technology Company Limited and the business licence has been granted by the relevant Chinese authorities. This will enable the Directors to progress the funding discussions with BIGT. We look forward to updating shareholders regarding developments as appropriate."

[luckyorange] 14/8/2019 11:19

They will be routing everything to the mainland if it comes to that rheumking, it will be business as usual I suspect.

[tim3416] 14/8/2019 11:10

No one knows for sure rheumking but the information we have is that Neill was hoping to complete the deal before the agm but that was not guaranteed. We have had nothing from the company to say it won't happen so I personally believe it will. Those who want the share price down will no doubt agree with you.

[rheumking] 14/8/2019 11:07

Hi lucky in a word Hong Kong - the Chinese will step in soon to save face with a big crackdown which will result in sanctions and make new business impossible to develop
I’m hoping I’m wrong but also have to be realistic

[rovi70] 14/8/2019 11:03

Graphene and other 2D materials are being used to produce a low-voltage LED which could potentially revolutionise energy efficiency in light emitting devices.

Light emitting diodes (LED) were first produced in 1962. Since then, they are used in virtually every electronic device. LED voltage is usually quite high due to the voltage having to be either equal to or higher than the band gap energy per electron charge.

Recent studies conducted at the The University of Manchester, University of Warsaw, the High Magnetic Field Laboratory in Grenoble and the National Institute for Materials Science in Japan, has resulted in a more efficent, lower voltage LED being developed.

By using atomically thin combined semiconductors, researchers were able to produce an LED that uses a far lower voltage. These findings could potentially lead to devices consuming far less energy.

Researchers created new heterostructures, a structure previously used in semiconductors, by holding two atomically thin structures, such as graphene, by using weak Van der Waals forces.

With hundreds of combinations of these Van der Waal heterostructures could potentially hold the key to more efficient materials and devices, especially optoelectric devices.

Dr Aleksey Kozikov of the National Graphene Institute at Manchester University, said: “It is fascinating how adding just one atomically thin material can change properties of a device so dramatically. This is the power of van der Waals heterostructures in action.”


Dr Kozikov worked with Professor Kostya Novoselov and Professor Marek Potemski to publish their findings from this research. The findings highlight that researchers bound electrons to the holes in different dichalcogenides in transitional metals.

As a result of their research, charge carriers who’s energy was originally too low to over come the materials band gap, can now cross the potential barrier, recombine and then emit light.

the commonly used 2D material, graphene, was used to electrically inject charge carriers through hexagonal boron nitride stacked in a heterostructure into Molybdenum disulphide and Tungsten diselenide. This injection allows for LED tuning from a normal operation to a low-voltage operation.

The first author of the study was Dr. Johannes Binder from the University of Warsaw. He said: “When we started measuring the first MoS2/WSe2 devices we were really surprised to observe emission at such low applied voltages. This upconverted emission impressively shows the importance of Auger processes for interlayer excitons in van der Waals heterostructures. Our findings shed more light on the physics in the largely unexplored high carrier density regime, which is crucial for optoelectronic applications as well as for fundamental phenomena like interlayer exciton condensation.”

[luckyorange] 14/8/2019 11:01

I don't think they will have put the effort into China if it was going to come to nothing rheumking, don't understand why you think that now when it is very near, is it just nerves?

Anyway , chart looks fine 🌞

[rheumking] 14/8/2019 10:56

Who on the board thinks the BGT deal will be signed off by the AGM ? Personally I don’t and actually I think China will consume a lot of time and energy but will all come to nothing . I just think the politics will make it too difficult to do business there .
I think the main prospects come from the collaborations and AECOM and think the apparel contract will come to fruition quickly
If we can get through summer with share price bouncing between 100-130 or do I think we will accelerate into autumn once you know what is done and dusted either way

[flatcoat1] 14/8/2019 10:36

very interesting article about graphene being used to improve efficiency in LEDs.https://www.scitecheuropa.eu/graphene-is-being-used-to-produce-a-low-voltage-led/96547/Early days yet so won't see any orders in foreseeable future but the opto electronic market is one sector i don't believe vrs has a collaboration in....yet. If graphene can be used to lower the efficiency in LEDs then it stands to reason it can be used to improve efficiency in laser diodes. Laser diodes are inherently inefficient in their use. The biggest cost is not the cost of the laser but the running costs, both electical supply and the cooling. With a drive to zero emissions by 2050 companies will have to use far more efficient lasers so the extra cost of graphene will not be an issue.

[deeplane] 14/8/2019 09:44

To go with the nanene earphones and the nanene heart stents. The stents not there yet tho.

[kemorkid] 14/8/2019 09:35

Blue .........

[soilderboy] 14/8/2019 09:33

Are we all buying a Samsung then if we find out it's VRS who supply the graphene!

[soilderboy] 14/8/2019 09:31

Thanks for that. Makes sense when you explain it the way you have. Cheers.

[1teepee] 14/8/2019 08:41

Well done! You said something useful, instead of ranting about everything you find about things that are unfair:)

[johnveals] 14/8/2019 08:39

Flatcoat, I am aware of the testing of new machines but my post was really in response to the speculation regarding Samsung (there has been others) and where they get their graphene from.

[superg1] 14/8/2019 08:29

Samsung batteries.


Samsung have been going on about that for years, we no idea currently what is in it (unsurprisingly).

What I do know is VRS work with the WMG and WMG found that few layer platelets answered issues they were having with the battery cycles. Varta get a mention.

“The flakes of FLG were mixed throughout the anode and acted like a set of strong, but relatively elastic, girders. These flakes of FLG increased the resilience and tensile properties of the material greatly reducing the damage caused by the physical expansion of the silicon during lithiation. The graphene enhances the long range electrical conductivity of the anode and maintains a low resistance in a structurally stable composite."

"More importantly, these FLG flakes can also prove very effective at preserving the degree of separation between the silicon particles. increases the chance that silicon particles become electrochemically welded to each other. This increased agglomeration increasingly reduces and restricts the electrolyte access to all the particles in the battery and impedes effective diffusion of lithium ions, which of course degrades the battery’s life and power output. The presence of FLG in the mixture tested by the WMG University of Warwick led researchers to hypothesize that this phenomenon is highly effective in mitigating electrochemical silicon fusion. This has been supported by systematic investigations”;

The WMG research team have already begun further work on this technological advance which will include further study and research as part of the graphene spearhead two year project led by Varta Micro-innovations, WMG at the University of Warwick is a partner along with Cambridge University, CIC, Lithops and IIT (Italian Institute of Technology). The main goal of that project is to advance in pre-industrial production of silicon/graphene composites and their subsequent processing into lithium-ion batteries for high-energy and high-power applications. As part of that project WMG at Warwick will be optimising the electrode research, scale up and pouch cell manufacture of the optimised Li-ion batteries.