Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[hew] 18/2/2019 18:34

Riskybusiness, so right. "Typical over expectation of PI that do not understand the process of bringing new concepts & technology to market".

Any that think there should be, or will be, a direct or consistent relationship between the fundamentals of a company and its share price shouldn't be investing, least of all in a company leading the commercial application of new technology.

From briefly scanning the majority of today's posts here it seems many have invested in a share price rather than in a company, and done so knowing little of that company or the world in which it is operating. Operating with some of the top global organisations, by the way, with national and international links. Some seem have not even taken the trouble to meet the management.

And a company not only with ample cash for the foreseeable, but with offers of support from major outfits.

I hope any new potential investors spend their time reading the RNS of the last 12 months, and Mike Brenner' excellent intro documents at the head of this thread. And get along to the next Investors Conference. With some very honourable exceptions, much on here recently is not worth your time.

[matheus7777] 18/2/2019 18:30

Indeed Ellis was a good opportunity for another top up today (definitely my last one now!)

[ellissj] 18/2/2019 18:22

100 % confidence in neill & co here. When the going gets tough, the tough get going....and pretenders become irrelevant soon enough. Glalth. Best ellis

[2dinvestor] 18/2/2019 18:19

Remember a while back those with L2 were laughing about a buy order at 92p... could that last sell be linked to that or between MMs?

[superg1] 18/2/2019 18:07

Thanks lovat it was an odd one.

Pretty clear it went to Peel. I did some dummy buys at the time to test what they did, even with orders going in the level available didn't change much. Peel sold about 300k of those going by the buys when they were on the offer.

[club sandwich] 18/2/2019 18:05

Incredible. Share price going through the floor, a growing chorus of disapproval at his rank incompetence, and STILL he drops opaque hints about a call he had today. The bloody fool doesn't seem to realise it's all his nods and winks - with ZERO follow-through - that's the problem!

[superg1] 18/2/2019 17:54

An odd one that one PS.

Not many PIs with those holdings and I know most above that level.

Miton last 400k deal done with an MM is theory but doesn't seem to fit either. Could be they have been in trouble with their funds.

Peel are happy then they sold about 200k plus of them in the 103 to 105 range, easy money.

[lovat scout] 18/2/2019 17:53

My guess is someone desperate to exit/stop loss order asked for a MM risk price for 400k and accepted a bid 10p below the market price.

[pshevlin] 18/2/2019 17:48

Who are PEEL likely to be working for?

[pshevlin] 18/2/2019 17:47

It won't create a re-entry point unless you have got out. Otherwise it would be an entry point so which is it for you risky?

[superg1] 18/2/2019 17:44

Just checked and about 300k was bought from Peel after they dominated the offer. Clearly that 400k must have been what they picked up but they could have been forward selling too knowing it was on the way.

[riskybusiness1] 18/2/2019 17:38

Typical over expectation of PI that do not understand the process of bringing new concepts & technology to market & thinking its available to sell immediately rather than developing various applications first. You may have the best technology but first the partners will want to see how they can use it & test it before aimlessly buying loads. This is just common sense but retail investors haven't a clue to this development phase and think an amazing invention means instant sales. This may keep on dropping due to emotional PIs but will create a fantastic re entry point as it will definitely go back up as the contracts & applications develop widening the overall opportunity which is without question enormous.

[festario] 18/2/2019 17:37

Sadly Shavian, that is an OLD episode, a repeat, I posted that very thing about 12 to 18 months, and the wait continues. Fake news.

[woodpeckers] 18/2/2019 17:34

Fest, the trouble is it's easy to sell from my experience today (could sell 150k at 102p this morning but it took me 10 mins to get a quote to buy 2k which I did at 103.75) so don't go thinking that it will be easy to buy them back....

Like the sound of that 'massive grin'....

[desflurane] 18/2/2019 17:34

Posts 60082 and 60107 reinforce the need for good news tomorrow to reverse this trend otherwise the head and shoulders looks likely to complete

[hsdeo] 18/2/2019 17:31

Neill Ricketts
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@neillricketts
12m12 minutes ago
More Neill Ricketts Retweeted Peter Shevlin
Unfortunately we are caught in someone else's game. Look at the trading patterns and the BB talk. As the largest holder I am affected more than most, yet I have a massive grin on my face today from a call. It is hard as it was at 10p, 26p,10p, 17p, 60p etc

[club sandwich] 18/2/2019 17:29

Shavian - not to investors, it ain't!

[robinhood69] 18/2/2019 17:28

I bet Gnanomat taking stock at £1.45 are looking down in their San Miguels tonight.
Still think there is a monster order coming in though.

[dreamtwister] 18/2/2019 17:27

in the name off the lord his son and the holy spirit forgive the ramping clown for investing in versarien....rip....amen !

[shavian] 18/2/2019 17:27

Graphene features on Pointless!

Just heard a contestant on the BBC1 quiz show Pointess, when asked what he did for a living said he was a Materials Chemist, dealing in the development all kinds of new materials and fabrics, including revolutionary stuff like graphene.

‘Aha!’said Alexander Armstrong ‘the wonder material’.
‘Yes’ replied scorer Richard Osman approvingly, ‘this is the stuff which will revolutionise all our lives over the next few years’

It seems the message is getting through!

[robinhood69] 18/2/2019 17:25

400,000 sold @ 92p from 2.10pm order.
WTF ?

[festario] 18/2/2019 17:19

NellyB why? He sold them at a large premium to where they are now? Get real!

[nellyb] 18/2/2019 17:18

pshevlin, it was one guy who mentioned 17 months, ffs. rid - a great post.
and did I read on Friday that one pi sold 300k's worth at a monster loss. ouch, i'd be crying into my beer glass for a while yet.