Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[superg1] 25/10/2017 10:21

I'll leave it for them to look up but I mentioned and named the guy recently as working for VRS.

[superg1] 25/10/2017 10:17

Are you on about SN again.

The guy spends his entire time trying to stir things up with lies and misleading comments hence I filtered him long ago.

He seems to thrive on such engagement.

Bit on the point raised the guy that set it up moved over to VRS.

[vasilis] 25/10/2017 08:44

Supernumerary

I fully agree in playing the ball and not the man so I've had a quick shooftie at the DV Composities JV formed in November 2014 and discover by looking at the accounts for 2015 that the JV was effectively dissolved on 24 September 2015 when the 49.1% holding by the Israeli-based company was transferred to Versarien (see Page 9 of the accounts) and the Directors from Dimar resigned at the same time. The 'JV' itself cost around £20k in expenses before tax and does not seem to have got off the ground for reasons unknown to me.

As I'm sure you know Supernumerary, these kind of JVs happen all the time with companies and this one lasted all of 10 months and cost before tax around £20k - ie the setting up and allied expenses. Big deal!

So if you are going to rake up old news Supernumerary, best to give the whole picture rather than try to give a misleading impression of something 'underhand'. Otherwise - to extend your footie analogy - some may see you as 'diving' in the penalty area to try and get something to your own advantage :-)

[grabster] 25/10/2017 08:15

'Radleys offers universal reactor workstations to graphene chemists'


(for anyone here who fancies setting up their own graphene lab!) ;-0

[the stigologist] 25/10/2017 08:13

18 and 20 do look like resistance but I think given the obvious potential and the recent buyers strike owing to perceived overhang it could get through that quite quickly should the right news drop. That is why I think the time is ripe for Versarien to drop even RNS-Reach type announcements because I don't think it will take much to get this going. It's obviously been held down artificially by the antics of traders.

[luckyorange] 25/10/2017 08:00

No problems with the ball being played supernum but no need to telegraph it eh?

Chart looking ok stig just got to move through the even numbers, what are your thoughts other than the 18 resistance then support?

[the stigologist] 24/10/2017 22:51

Interesting.

[supernumerary] 24/10/2017 22:29

The ball, lucky, not the man ;¬)

[luckyorange] 24/10/2017 22:00

Oh dear supernum has sold again and he was going positive for while, that 10p ain't going to happen supernum, you are so predictable ;-)

[supernumerary] 24/10/2017 21:27

That's funny - I've been tracking one of VRS's joint ventures ;¬) Anybody remember 'DV Composites'? Just in case you've forgotten, here it is:

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'Joint Venture with Dimar Ltd to form DV Composites Ltd

Versarien Plc (AIM:VRS), the advanced engineering materials group, is pleased to announce that it has agreed terms to form a 50:50 joint venture with Dimar Limited ("Dimar"), a leading global tungsten carbide tool manufacturer based in Israel, to distribute a new range of tooling for the composites industry.
[...]
Neill Ricketts, Chief Executive Officer of Versarien, commented: "This joint venture has provided the Group with a fantastic opportunity to combine several of our key technologies with those of Dimar, for the fast growing composites industry.

"Given the breadth of Versarien, we will be able to draw upon our significant expertise in graphene, tungsten carbide incorporating VersarienCu from an InnovateUK grant and this coupled with Dimar's extensive customer base and experience in the market, creates a robust platform for the launch of DV Composites. It also provides the Group with an excellent entry point into the Israeli composite industry through our close collaboration with Dimar."'

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It's actually not that easy to track, because, believe it or not, vrs got the name of its own company wrong - maybe Mr Ricketts was partying a bit too much the night before? It actually ended up being called DV Composite Tools Ltd and here you are, its latest returns etc:



As sg would say - 'it doesn't look pretty'.

Surprising that vrs didn't think it worth mentioning to shareholders; I expect they wanted to but that pesky Nomad stopped it :¬(

[superg1] 24/10/2017 20:31

Serratia

I have been tracking Cambridge nano via company searches and it doesn't look pretty. EG note the termination and so on. Accounts also listed as overdue.



Accounts overdue

Next accounts made up to 31 December 2016
due by 30 September 2017

[supernumerary] 24/10/2017 20:22

lucky - never forget the Nomad is paid by the company. Is it surprising that sometimes they say what the company wants rather than what they really should? Ask sg's opinion on Nomads and their probity ;¬)

And somebody should tell NR that it's great being the only guy at the party, just as long as there isn't someone else at home screwing your girlfriend...

[serratia] 24/10/2017 19:31

Why industry is so slow to adopt graphene and 2D materials?

hxxps://www.ktn-uk.co.uk/perspectives/why-industry-is-so-slow-to-adopt-graphene-and-2d-materials

[serratia] 24/10/2017 19:29

Another Manchester spin out.

hxxp://www.graphene-enabled.com/

[serratia] 24/10/2017 18:55

Another Cambridge Graphene spin out.

hxxps://cambridgenanosystems.com/

Collaborating with Red Bull racing.

[jointer13] 24/10/2017 18:16

"You know you are doing something right when the other #graphene suppliers don't even bother to turn up to a great day @versarien"

because they know we are......

"the go to place for graphene"

[luckyorange] 24/10/2017 17:34

@KTNUK_Materials @innovateuk just fantastic today, up at 5,worth every minute , thankyou to the team.Enquiry list now at all time high.

Neill Ricketts‏ @neillricketts 2h2 hours ago
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You know you are doing something right when the other #graphene suppliers don't even bother to turn up to a great day @versarien

[luckyorange] 24/10/2017 16:26

No supernum, definitely required RNS's otherwise the NOMAD would have thrown it out, the RNS Reach is very specific

Both of those were significant in their own right as we will see in the near future, the CPI will be signposting to VRS and Aerospace takes years to tick the boxes before being accepted as a supplier (as does the MOD), all looks good to me.

[richie32] 24/10/2017 14:37

Stig, thanks for the info. Sounds like a press release service.

[supernumerary] 24/10/2017 14:24

phoenix - if you think I'm 'expressing half truths' about the company, why don't you provide what you believe are the true facts, rather than just blustering?

[phoenixs] 24/10/2017 13:29

stig,I am not blind to alternative opinions but turn away from those that are expressed with half truths about the company and its ability to commercialise the products. We shall soon see who has been right and wrong about VRS.

[the stigologist] 24/10/2017 13:16

Richie32

it is refreshing to hear someone who is so self-confident that they can admit when they don't know something rather than just blag

as supern points out RNSNON are actually called RNS Reach now and it's a class of RNS which is basically just a marketing Press Release newswire and they don't AFAIK require NOMAD sign-off because they are not deemed to be 'significant or price changing'. Of course what is deemed insignificant and not price changing to a NOMAD may be very significant to Investors if it signals say for example a PR/IR marketing push

[the stigologist] 24/10/2017 13:12

phoenix you are simply wrong to decry supern

some of the biggest detractors can become the biggest fans e.g. Saul/Paul as the original and greatest example of a 'Damascene conversion'

personally i'm close to transitioning from sceptic to believer, i believe the stock is at a tipping point just like myself