Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[jointer13] 06/12/2018 06:48

a big plus this.

"Polygrene will enable Versarien to be able to offer customers an already compounded material incorporating graphene that they can use in existing production processes."

[luckyorange] 06/12/2018 06:44

1teepee, how readable is your uncensored thread? That is why some are moderated, you will learn hopefully 🤔 You seem to just snipe nowadays instead of adding to the discussion, easier to sit back and criticise others than add something different to the mix.

[jointer13] 06/12/2018 06:42

polygrene...again what sets us apart from the others.

we are bespoke...specially made.

"Polygrene can be adapted to suit a variety of modern polymers, along with different grades of graphene, all to suit the needs of a wide variety of industries."

[timbo003] 06/12/2018 06:41

Neill really should not engage on basic science discussions on twitter, unless he does his homework properly first

In last night’s tweets he starts off my stating that single layer graphene has no mass and then goes on to reference a paper which talks about the electrons (associated with the SP2 hybridisation) in single layer graphene being massless. The reference he cites is a false premise for his argument that single layer graphene has no mass. Anyone with a basic science degree would realize that




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[jointer13] 06/12/2018 06:20

agree ad.

scrutable summed up our polygrene nicely

scrutables post worth reposting as it hits the nail on the head.

"Today's launch of Polygrene is not just of an improved or additional product in the range. It is much bigger than that and brilliant Marketing. The brand name is also felicitously chosen

It is the launch of an individual new business containing a potentially secured IP, hopefully patentable. of the method of ensuring that the mix achieves the intended function. The "know how" will be more protected than if the mixing IP had to be supplied with every order.

This new business is alone potentially worth the whole of today's capitalisation of VRS."

[ad63] 06/12/2018 06:06

All I need to know is that VRS' graphene science works (RNS 19/11/18: 'Experts at the demonstration meeting consider that the graphene technology of Versarien has certain world leading position' - but we knew that already with the collaborations / partnerships we have. We have positive customer focused product development e.g. Polygrene, with Polgrene already attracting interest (RNS 4/12/18:'We are in disussions with a number of potential customers for Polygrene'). We have numerous collaborations / partnerships with some of the worlds largest businesses. We have a prudent solid balance sheet. We have only circa 152m shares in issue compared to others that have circa 403m in issue and will issue countless more shares on listing in the UK. Whats not to like about VRS if you believe that graphene will be the centre of the next Industrial Revolution....and yes sizeable sales will come :)

[1teepee] 06/12/2018 01:02

Agreed. The company will still have an amazing future:)

[1teepee] 06/12/2018 00:18

Well said. I don't know why so many just blindly believe. It either has or hasn't got mass. It has got mass. People can't say it has no mass because nr says so, when it does and is measured in grams. Too many disciples here

[loglorry1] 05/12/2018 23:46

Oh dear LuckyO. I'm afraid you are wrong. It doesn't really matter though.


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the initial question way back was about 1 layer of pure graphene which doesn't have mass, have a look at the link he posted on there and read it!

[loglorry1] 05/12/2018 23:40

@Festario Nanene is light or more accurately not very dense but it's density can be measured and is given in the tech sheet as 185.7 kg per m3 www.nanene.com

Nanene is what Neill was talking about in the podcast saying that it's low density meant that it had to be produced near its point of use in China. He then gave the 38,000 barrels per T figure.

However the Nanene density of 185.7 kg per m3 means 1kg is about 5 litres.

If as folk here think that 1kg is worth $100,000 there's no reason on density grounds it can't be sent via air freight. This is what FGR do.

As for saying Graphene has no mass as he did on Twitter tonight I have no clue where he gets that from.

Perhaps it's another way to justify no sales since they just couldn't weigh it ;-)

[festario] 05/12/2018 23:31

It's a red herring, by the obsessive idiots.2D materials are incredibly light and have infinitesimal mass, that's what Neill is saying. Too many tosspots trying to pick a flaw where non exists.

[luckyorange] 05/12/2018 23:27

Is that your backstop 1 teepee, poor argument in 52071, the initial question way back was about 1 layer of pure graphene which doesn't have mass, have a look at the link he posted on there and read it!

[loglorry1] 05/12/2018 23:23

@1teepee you are right. Obviously even single layer Graphene has mass. Neill is again getting confused. The electrons on single layer Graphene behave as though they have no mass. The carbon atoms themselves obviously have mass.


Versarien don't manufacturer single layer Graphene. The podcast he's talking about is all about the manufacturing site in China that was proposed. The 38,000 barrel comment was a gaff.
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The protons and neutrons do though, which are part of the atomic structure

[bootie64] 05/12/2018 23:17

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[luckyorange] 05/12/2018 23:13

Some time ago I think he was asked about the volume of 1 tonne of pure graphene so it is all unimportant and inconsequential in the real world just a dead end angle once more.

[1teepee] 05/12/2018 23:13

Exactly, right on fest

[1teepee] 05/12/2018 23:12

Don't worry I know this is a religious thread and neill can say nothing wrong. I know Graphene has mass even if none of his disciples believe it. Otherwise why would it be in grams.

[festario] 05/12/2018 23:12

I asked Neill this directly, and he answered succinctly... it has very, very little mass.... and they have very sensitive machinery at the universities that can measure it.

[1teepee] 05/12/2018 23:09

I have it says the electrons have no mass

[luckyorange] 05/12/2018 23:08

I think it was just an extrapolation relating to Pure graphene and all theoretical, because it is so time consuming and expensive to produce 1 layer thick it is all unimportant. For the mass question look at his twitter feed.

[1teepee] 05/12/2018 23:07

The protons and neutrons do though, which are part of the atomic structure