Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[pshevlin] 03/12/2018 08:11

Interesting that they aren't suggesting the same in VRS considering how "superior" our offering is.

[ellissj] 03/12/2018 08:04

China is a tough market to crack ! Imo. Best ellis


"HAYDALE GETS STRATEGIC INVESTMENT FROM EVERPOWER INTERNATIONAL (ALLISS)[ 03 Feb 2017 08:00 ] "

LONDON (Alliance News) - Haydale Graphene Industries PLC on Friday said New York investment firm Everpower International Holdings Co Ltd has proposed a GBP3.3 million strategic investment in the company.

Everpower invests in technologies and integrating these technologies into China. It has conditionally agreed to take a 9.9% stake in Haydale for GBP3.3 million via a subscription at 170 pence per share.

This is an around 2.8% discount to Haydale's closing price Thursday.

The two have also entered into non-binding heads of terms as a precursor to inking an exclusive collaboration agreement to manufacture, supply and market Haydale's products and develop nanomaterials and new graphene projects for the Chinese market."

[spid81] 03/12/2018 07:53

Hi jointer,

You are correct, VRS has no peers, they are yet to sell any significant quantities of graphene,3 years of collaboration agreements with 1 update,

The same could be said about the quality of nanene, Haydale do have a collaboration agreement with VRS, they even decided that Talga's graphene was a better option.

I should probably add, VRS are still in lab scale production, It will be interesting to see if they can successfully scale their production, they you have to worry about consistently supply the same product to the customers, Ray Gibbs said he is having this issue the companies that have been supplying them with graphene, FGR believes they have fixed this issue (patent pending)
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quality.

its the quality of our materials that has us at the forefront of this industry

its not just about the few layer, platelets, sizes. etc etc

its that final ingredient (coca cola recipe) and the finishing off that makes us unique....

we have no peers.

[spid81] 03/12/2018 07:49

Hi Ridicule,

I hope you had a good weekend,

Yes the buck liners are a simpler and faster process in starting the graphene revolution, What FGR and newGen are showing the world is Graphene is changing the simplest of application, the test data that FGR and newGen receive from these trials will open up more applications, As it is newGen / FGR are recieving calls asking how graphene can improve their products,

with a 100-500% reduction in abrasive wear is a significant amount, It will will result in the mining companies having a significant saving due to increased productivity / less down time.

Don't forget the wear liner market is worth US $1.2 Billion. don't forget that newGen are using PureGRAPH20 that has a average platelet that is 10x larger than nanene's average, this will not be the only application where VRS cannot compete.


FYI, I can see where log is coming from, if your not making significant sales, you will continue to need to raise funds from Shareholders, FGR are expecting to be cashflow positive in 12 months time.

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Loggie still does not understand that lining mining buckets is a simpler and faster process than delivering the 4th industrial revolution in partnership with many of the world’s leading companies. Such partners cover multiple verticals from smart clothing and tyres to smart, highly strengthened structures, energy charging rates of batteries, extended battery and super capacitor charge retention periods; thereby extending the driving range of EVs between charges. Delivering unprecedented tensile strength to 3D printed products enabling the sintering process to deliver products with sufficient tensile strength to enable worldwide mass production of parts, manufactured from computer based instructions delivered over the Internet from a variety of civil engineering structures to a myriad of automative and aerospace products. This will shrink the geographic global manufacturing market place in a way that blows a myth in the Brexit remain argument that we always have to do business with our closest market - the EU.

I note many posters have tried, in a variety of ways, to explain some of the finer complexities I describe above to Loggie, but to no avail. Matters are simply beyond his grasp, an affliction made worse by a selective deafness to the sound of a train whistle while standing in the centre of a railway track looking the wrong way.

[ayl30] 03/12/2018 07:48

Old news mentions being published n August 2018

[ellissj] 03/12/2018 07:34

Indeed chill. Neill was walking around london with it ! Wonder who saw it ? Ftse100 looking good to open up. Hong kong up over 2% atm. Hoping for a good day here. Aimo. Best ellis.

[jointer13] 03/12/2018 07:32

quality...keeping ahead.

Versarien plc (AIM: VRS), the advanced materials engineering group, is pleased to provide an update on recent senior appointments to strengthen the Company's graphene technology team, with a particular focus on quality assurance, and the selection of the Company to be the launch client of The Graphene Council's 'Verified Graphene Producer' programme in the USA.
Strengthening of Graphene Technology Team

The Company is pleased to announce the appointments of Dr Denis Koltsov and Dr Martin Kemp to strengthen its graphene technology team, with a particular focus on quality assurance. Both Dr Kemp and Dr Kolsov are at the forefront of developing the international standards that will define graphene and other nanomaterials.

Dr Denis Koltsov is Chair of ISO TC 229 Nanotechnology Standards Group at ISO (International Organization for Standardization). ISO TC 229 has already published 65 ISO standards in the field of nanotechnologies and has a further 43 standards under development. Their focus is on developing a set of peer reviewed standards for graphene and closely related materials that will facilitate the ability of producers and users of these materials to have confidence in the level of performance on a consistent and measurable basis.

Dr Martin Kemp is Chairman of the Nanomaterials Committee of the Institute of Materials, Minerals and Mining (IOM3). Of particular note, Dr Kemp has written the new standard for graphene flakes (British Standard Institution BSI PAS 1201:2018 'Properties of Graphene Flakes - Guide') which was sponsored by InnovateUK and will be published in August 2018.

Graphene Council Verified Graphene Producer Programme

The Company is pleased to announce that it has been selected to be The Graphene Council's launch client for their 'Verified Graphene Producer' programme, which will independently verify that the Company's Nanene graphene nano platelets meet their demanding standards.

The US-headquartered Graphene Council is the leading platform for people and companies that are interested in the research, development and application of graphene world-wide. Founded in September 2013, more than 4,700 researchers, scientists, students and graphene commercial professionals have already joined. The Graphene Council is the USNC Technical Advisory Group to IEC TC 113, Nano-Electrotechnologies.

Commenting, Terrance Barkan, Executive Director, The Graphene Council, said: "We are delighted that Versarien will be our inaugural client undertaking verification to our demanding standards. The 'Graphene Council Verified Graphene Producer' programme is the only independent in-person inspection regime for graphene. As the largest and most advanced community for graphene professionals, the mission of The Graphene Council is to help bring transparency and confidence to the rapidly developing graphene industry."

[chillpill] 03/12/2018 07:27

Just been reading about another Great British technology success story, Darktrace and reminds me how Joe Public does not get access to the vast majority of the best early stage companies these days.

It has just had a fund raising round with Private Equity funds valuing the company at £1.29 Billion and had revenue of £30m last year.

Incidentally I believe the institutional shareholding has started to increase since the commercial order for aircraft interior parts. As and when we see more commercial deals I think we will see more institutions start to buy in.

[jointer13] 03/12/2018 07:26

quality.

its the quality of our materials that has us at the forefront of this industry

its not just about the few layer, platelets, sizes. etc etc

its that final ingredient (coca cola recipe) and the finishing off that makes us unique....

we have no peers.

quality and prestige.

I reckon the likes of talga, xg, Thomas swan etc would have put a tender in to the cpi for this competitive process,and probably failed on the quality of their materials.

vrs won all they tendered for.


the tender for the cpi was based on quality.

quality wins through in the end.

"The evaluation of the tender was based principally on the quality and specification of the graphene to be supplied with additional marks awarded for price and delivery."

Versarien plc (AIM: VRS), the advanced materials engineering group, is very pleased to announce that it has won a single supplier competitive tender for the ongoing supply of nanomaterials, including the Company's graphene, to the Centre for Process Innovation Limited ("CPI"). The evaluation of the tender was based principally on the quality and specification of the graphene to be supplied with additional marks awarded for price and delivery.

[fuji99] 03/12/2018 07:10

jointer - Yes - It reminds of child whinging all the time for a sweet.
Mind you, some personalities did not change a iota from childhood.

[ellissj] 03/12/2018 07:06

Handy to know ! Glalth Best ellis

"Chinese investors still keen on UK despite Brexit."

"Chinese investment into the United Kingdom will continue to flourish despite challenges posed by the UK's scheduled exit from the European Union at the end of next March, according to a new report.

Dutch professional services company TMF Group says that the weak pound -- along with a liberal economic environment and the positioning of London as an international financial hub -- are all helping to keep the UK attractive to Chinese investors despite the uncertainty caused by Brexit.

TMF conducted an analysis of the UK-China investment relationship in a white paper published in collaboration with the China Britain Business Council.

The company found that investment from China into the UK doubled in 2017 compared on the previous year, and that this year the UK has received more Chinese investment than both France and Germany.

"As a mature, services-oriented economy, the UK offers a range of investment opportunities that correspond to China's strategic priorities," said Wincy Wong, director of consultancy solutions at TMF Hong Kong. "This alignment is set to drive further investment and partnerships in sectors like education, healthcare, energy, logistics and transport."

In the first half of 2018, the UK attracted $1.6 billion in investment from China, making it the most popular European destination after Sweden, according to research by United States law firm Baker McKenzie.

The industry composition of Chinese investment in Europe also shifted in the first half of this year, the research indicated. "Real economy" sectors including automotive, health and biotech, and consumer products and services became the largest recipients for Chinese investment in Europe, with the real estate and hospitality sector losing top position."

[jointer13] 03/12/2018 07:06

most people have him ignored. (whats the point in reading lies)

[club sandwich] 03/12/2018 07:04

Oh look - no RNS...

[wuzy] 03/12/2018 07:02

Apologies, cheers

[ny boy] 02/12/2018 23:25

Significant moves up for equities Dow futs +490, should smash 130p, if these futures hold overnight!

[20pc] 02/12/2018 23:16

Just noticed a post from MoneySqirrel on 21/11/18 20:28 - 49559
"On watchdog tonight, Clarks Shoes soles literally disintegrating....I wonder if there was an alternative material!"
Clarks will be well aware of Nanene as Galahad Clark founder of Vivobarefoot is part of the Clarks family and Asher Clark is the Design Director.
VRS Vivobarefoot collaboration

[wuzy] 02/12/2018 23:08

So why do you entertain his posts!!!!!Filter him like most of us do ,cheers

[ridicule] 02/12/2018 22:59

The following statement by Loggie highlights just how far his lack of grasp extends

“@Harrysol how do you explain that FGR took their PureGRAPH Graphene from test to a 2T order in 5 months when VRS collaborations stretch back 3 years and no material orders?
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Loggie still does not understand that lining mining buckets is a simpler and faster process than delivering the 4th industrial revolution in partnership with many of the world’s leading companies. Such partners cover multiple verticals from smart clothing and tyres to smart, highly strengthened structures, energy charging rates of batteries, extended battery and super capacitor charge retention periods; thereby extending the driving range of EVs between charges. Delivering unprecedented tensile strength to 3D printed products enabling the sintering process to deliver products with sufficient tensile strength to enable worldwide mass production of parts, manufactured from computer based instructions delivered over the Internet from a variety of civil engineering structures to a myriad of automative and aerospace products. This will shrink the geographic global manufacturing market place in a way that blows a myth in the Brexit remain argument that we always have to do business with our closest market - the EU.

I note many posters have tried, in a variety of ways, to explain some of the finer complexities I describe above to Loggie, but to no avail. Matters are simply beyond his grasp, an affliction made worse by a selective deafness to the sound of a train whistle while standing in the centre of a railway track looking the wrong way.

[diversification] 02/12/2018 22:17

Not only is this a barrier to entry but the Chinese innovation zone wants this to be an international collaboration of Universities as they recognise the U.K. history in innovation.

Ultimately the academic net economic benefit of foriegn students studying at our universities stands at around £20b annually at present but I think the U.K. would also like to benefit directly from the sale of Nanene which is why Matt and Peter are involved for the benefit of U.K. jobs.

[diplomat65] 02/12/2018 22:01

Yep, quite a barrier to entry isn't it?

[diversification] 02/12/2018 21:34

Absolutely 20pc, I am purely speculating but we can be sure that this deal is going to be massive.

It’s a zone full of companies who are growing and therefore investing at a pace. I to would be very disappointed to see a hostile takeover approach but I think the U.K. goverment would have something to say about that given that they are looking for a return on investment to.