Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[loglorry1] 30/11/2018 14:25

The other Aussie uni is Flinders University Adelaide.

I think it is quite clear that FGR on paper are beating VRS in almost every category. In practice they are also bringing in large orders.

It's quite possible that FGR are not what they claim and if so feel free to post here and say why.

Nothing I can see that justifies VRS being rated at 4x as much.

@squire if there are multiple reasons why not list them?

[axotyl] 30/11/2018 14:17

He's struggling to come up with something, Squire. FGR has contact with "....another Aussie University..." - can you believe it?

Cutting-edge research once again from the "Dr", spreading himself a bit thin from trashing Frontera as well.

[squire007] 30/11/2018 13:51

Log !!! Ffs there are multiple reasons for the difference in mkt cap, and your idiotic comments are one of them! Never mind the real ones :-o ffs .. pmsl every time x

[jointer13] 30/11/2018 13:41

its all ifs and buts...for all we know the share price could double...nobody knows.

it isn't about one day.

[mryl] 30/11/2018 13:29

But Fest the only thing that might happen for someone with a holding as big as yours is that you sell your shares before the false dip, try to buy them back, cannot because there is actually a very low volume, and then end up with less shares when/if the share price goes up a few days later. It may work for someone trying to increase holding by hundreds or low thousands of shares, but that's pretty insignificant for you with your million shares.

[maxibrit2] 30/11/2018 13:26

Great youtube video SuperG.

Especially like the roadmap and the multiple other 2D materials mentioned in the roadmaps near the end.

[rogerbridge] 30/11/2018 13:25

SG, if we had a whip around for some cash, do you think the wife would let you out to do some research? You could always get a man in to do the work!

[rogerbridge] 30/11/2018 13:24

I am not expecting any profit, we have had a lot of expenses, staff, overseas visits to name just two. The shorters may suggest that the sky is falling in and sell some at the start of the days trading, hoping investors will follow their lead.

The largest factor, unless there is an order announced next week is the statement from Neill. It should not be any trouble for Neill to highlight where we are on production and collaborations and give an update on the China situation.
I am feeling positive and have no concerns with progress to date.

[festario] 30/11/2018 13:13

Mryl, it's EXACTLY that dip that I'm referring to.... and there was nothing false about it. At its worst the shares fell 25%, and it could easily happen again, albeit temporary. But that's precisely the type of thing that lets people add to their holding. In fact for me it's the only way.I just hope that it doesn't happen.

[runthejoules] 30/11/2018 13:12

I think all the results day selling happened on the way down from 180p myself.

[woodpeckers] 30/11/2018 13:02

I'd be very surprised if anyone looking to buy in on a share price dip on the interims is lucky enough to get one. There hasn't been any real buying hoping for exceptional results as we're all level headed enough to know that the figures aren't going to look great. Hence there is unlikely to be much/any selling.

More likely is that Neill will be giving us an update on the new machine and who knows what other gems....

[tini5] 30/11/2018 12:56

Not terribly interested in the figures at this stage, more looking forward to news of the business development and statements around how strategy is unfolding.

[mryl] 30/11/2018 12:51

Fest, that's not true.
Last results, on July 19, there was a false dip for a few minutes/hours then share price went back to initial level then stayed pretty constant for a long time until further news propelled it to 150p a month later.
Looking at last interim results on Nov 29 (unfortunately I wasn't around at that time), again 1 day dip, then share price doubled 3 days later.

[davemac3] 30/11/2018 12:45

do you think we will get £Nanene sales on results day?

[festario] 30/11/2018 12:34

VRS share price might get caned on Interim results day as well.I hope not obviously, and I won't be able to benefit from it, but it happened last time.

[festario] 30/11/2018 12:33

Buying Euros is increasingly attractive too.

[festario] 30/11/2018 12:32

I haven't looked at HAYD at all SuperG, it was just an observation.But I'll say this, there are a LOT of cash generating shares which are mega cheap at the moment. However I can't take advantage of them because I'm fully invested here.Not only that, but I firmly believe that ALL shares are going to get hammered again and again during the Brexit parliamentary vote and afterwards, and I won't have a cash pile to take advantage of it in any way.

[superg1] 30/11/2018 12:16

fest
On those facts re calls and pointless figures.

By my calcs if you had sold all your VRS and bought Hayd at the bottom (impossible) then you'd now by applying for exemption for breaching the 30% holding to avoid making an offer for the company.

That's where facts get in the way of what ifs and good stories.

[super7] 30/11/2018 12:14

Just quickley going back to the Mercedes F1 comments from yesterday..... Mercedes HPE are in Brixworth, but they are a separate entity to the F1 team which is based in Brackley. The F1 team is, I believe, owned by a number of shareholders inlcuding Daimler, Totto Wolf and Nicki Lauda and they buy their engines from Mercedes HPE so are a customer....

As to any Mercedes HPE connection, modern F1 engines are, as everyone knows, Hybrids. Battery technology is at the forefront of the engine design. Packaging of a battery is a big issue in F1 and the size of the battery pack has a direct effect on the performance of the car, both in energy and in weight so Graphene batteries would be very interesting to them.

Mercedes have just quit the DTM as well to compete in Formula E, which is of course, all electric and the teams are allowed to develop their own powertrains.

Both F1 and FE are highly regulated to keep cost down, hence no McLaren Graphene in the F1 car's carbon components so maybe Neils gone along to put an order in for one of these..... httpx://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/mercedes-amg-hypercar Which also comes out of Mercedes HPE in Brixworth and is also a Hybrid.