Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[twatcher] 21/11/2018 15:48

£20 each , sounds like you should be keen as mustard to buy my hold for a mere £5 each :)

[sandbag] 21/11/2018 15:47

Matt tweeted on the 13th that he was in Daegu South Korea. Where did we find out about him being in North Korea?

[luckyorange] 21/11/2018 15:47

Takeover isn't on the cards flatcoat, I believe that safeguards were in place in the past and will be in the future, NR wants it to go as far as it can and was even talking about a Gloucester hub of some sort a couple of years back.

[harrysol] 21/11/2018 15:45

Versarien has certain world leading position. You can see why the Chinese want VRS graphene. For that matter, this also highlights why some of the biggest companies in the world want to do business with VRS.

[clint fleecewood] 21/11/2018 15:43

Every time whiteslice :)

[woodpeckers] 21/11/2018 15:42

Jointer, counting the hours now til I can start buying again, complete the sale tomorrow afternoon and the exchange bureau have said 24hours to get the GBPs in to our account...
Squire, could you ask your mate to wait a day or two please...... :-)
Laginaneil, I did wonder re Matt/Samsung but Matt is in North Korea and Samsung are based in South Korea from what I can gather, though I guess they could be meeting him there...would suggest Matt has someone even more important to see though otherwise he would have gone to the south...

[flatcoat1] 21/11/2018 15:40

Should of added before rule change vrs didn't meet the threshold tests for government to prevent takeover.

[bootie64] 21/11/2018 15:40

Harrysol
Member since: 21 Nov 2018

Fail :o)

[mavfav] 21/11/2018 15:40

Well when you look at the comments and yet don't see anything to substantiate the comment it makes them look stupid

Nico you assume multiple things about shareholders yet you don't actually hold but feel it necessary to berate those that do.

I am a holder and I did not buy on the back of a whim back at 20p I bought into the potential. Whilst I will concur with certain things that you have stated these are in fact snapshots in time and not entirely relevant.

If we didn't think of Jam tomorrow we wouldn't be on AIM thats pretty much a fact and on that topic I do believe in facts.
Versarien publish audited accounts
Those accounts are always backwards looking
Those don't take into consideration any ongoing work
Collaborations are not 2 min jobs
They don't take 2 mins to set up
NR and the team I imagine are turning down collaborations at the moment to prioritise on those with the best potential
They will however consider some and deliver on those where they can be brought to market in little time and with minimal effort

Whilst we may have multiple regions in China taking note they are not the only players

Interest is coming from all sides of the world and capitalising on that is essential

We are not just taking or making deals for the sake of it we are carefully choosing our potential partners and these are allegedly going well. (Neills words not mine)
Neill puts himself in the spotlight for something he wholeheartedly believes in

He isn't just about the company but its investors and staff too
He doesn't shy away from questions posed by shareholders or those with an alternate agenda

At what point will you see us at market value and then look to buy in

At what point will you turn your attention to other organisations you see as not being fair value and leave one alone you have no interest in

You indicate this a Jam tomorrow stock that will never deliver yet I look at it as honey tomorrow. you are looking from a viewpoint we do not have anything in place. in the jam/honey analagy, we have
the Queen (Sorry Neill)
the workers
The Hive (even our nanene shape is the same as a hive)
We have a team actively seeking the pollen
We have been invited to the Bee Keepers Forum
A reputation for independently verified quality
We are looking at Manuka Honey and potentially Elvish honey
We have the top bee keepers in the world at university working with us
I could go on but you didn't want to read that so

Show me the honey

I know nooothing

[flatcoat1] 21/11/2018 15:39

I thought one of the biggest reasons the government removed the revenue and market cap thresholds in June was precisely so they can stop takeovers of companies like vrs by foreign countries. It was e biggest change in rules by over 2 decades, and this started to happen within weeks of Matt walker joining

[borg45] 21/11/2018 15:37

What's people's take on a bid and what price would be acceptable???sensible suggestions only please!!!

[harrysol] 21/11/2018 15:36

I agree. The UK government is unlikely to allow VRS to fall into foreign hands. Only a British bid is likely to succeed. VRS are on to a winner. UK government know this. Hence the secondments.

[luckyorange] 21/11/2018 15:31

We would need to leave the EU for that to happen Cheek 😘

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[runthejoules] 21/11/2018 15:28

'why on earth would the government give such (unprecedented) backing to a company only for it to fall into the hands of a private/overseas enterprise months later. Doesn't make any sense.'

...because they're incompetent idiots? Or because they own the overseas enteprise :-)

My target is to take some off as it goes up so I can live life, but keep enough back to be multi-millionaire. But if there's a takeover I think I'll largely quit the investing lark as I'm too much of a sucker & become an SEN teacher or renovate some flats to rent to the homeless, put something back into society, follow Neill's example.

[squire007] 21/11/2018 15:25

Lucky, when I showed him my paper trail and chats he was happy ;-)

[ratpat999] 21/11/2018 15:24

Club talking rubbish again, Neill has clearly stated we are not for sale he is building a large company ,with his shares and a few large holders any takeover would be batted away, years away from takeover imho

[club sandwich] 21/11/2018 15:24

As I've said before, it's a straight race: either VRS starts delivering the value locked up in the company (in the form of the collabs and China), or someone will try and buy that potential at a discount now, before all/any of it is realised.

The time to start delivering that value is right now, in my opinion.

[cheek212] 21/11/2018 15:23

Much against my judgement but I have to agree with Club - this is a public limited company so anyone can buy it if the offer is big enough and enough shareholders say yes please. Whilst it's great that the DIT want to see the business grow and are helping with that, ultimately we are all in it to make money and everyone has got a price they want to achieve. If the government want to stop a sale, then they need to put up some cash to buy a golden share.

[whiteslice] 21/11/2018 15:22

Clint - best leave the room again - now look what you've done..

[club sandwich] 21/11/2018 15:19

potsol - well it's a listed company, there's nothing they can do. If someone makes a high enough offer to get control of enough shares they buy the company, simple as.

Unless of course the government wants to take a golden share, at a price far above where we are now...

[potsol] 21/11/2018 15:16

I've raised this on the BB before.......why on earth would the government give such (unprecedented) backing to a company only for it to fall into the hands of a private/overseas enterprise months later. Doesn't make any sense.

[club sandwich] 21/11/2018 15:10

"A bid is also on the cards based on the comments by NR in the last two podcasts. I would want any offer to be £2.50+"

you're joking, right? Try moving the decimal point a place to the right...

[laginaneil] 21/11/2018 15:05

Hi Harrysol,
Welcome to a another new user !!

I disagree with your view :
'I would want any offer to be £2.50+'

Either the decimal point is a typo you made or something 'fishy' here?
For me £25 would be good .. as a starter in MY lifetime.