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[luckyorange] 09/10/2018 14:31

xgs sell their graphene like product at a loss.... great business sense 😆

[tini5] 09/10/2018 14:31

All the best with XGS Tim but I'll stick with VRS.

As always, true quality (and value) will out.

[jointer13] 09/10/2018 14:29

sg has them well sussed ..they are just desperate people trying to close there shorts.

and they will say anything...they are liars

[shammytime] 09/10/2018 14:28

Neil off to Texas next week. Interesting times ahead...

[ellissj] 09/10/2018 14:24

Sorry tim, i regret to say your opinion looks uninformed from my point of view. Nevertheless, good luck with your investment. Dyor. Best ellis.

[loglorry1] 09/10/2018 14:19

Exactly, comparing xg to vrs lacks credibility. it's like comparing a lada to a bentley ! Fools gold to gold etc. Aimo. Best ellis
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Can you substantiate this claim? Do Ford Motor company know they are buying a Lada? Where is your technical or sales based argument that Nanene is far superior to other GnP solutions available in the market?

Ps. Because Neill and superg1 told me isn't a great answer

[loglorry1] 09/10/2018 14:17

@sonsonnyjim I've no need to. The mere fact he ducks the question speaks volumes.

[pshevlin] 09/10/2018 14:16

Probably all the same guy.

[sonsonnyjim] 09/10/2018 14:14

Tim put that to our CEO, he's best placed to answer

[loglorry1] 09/10/2018 14:11

@tini5 there have been no sales announcements with big firms. Only tiny sample have been shipped to date. A collaboration is a sales lead. The deal XGS have announced today is a real sale where their graphene will be used in Ford cars.

XGS have a market cap of $40m. That's a fraction of what you are buying VRS at today.

@ellissj and others £1m/mt is completely nuts. The market price for GnP is around $80/kg and falling as companies scale up.

To put that in perspective current VRS production is worth $80/shift before any costs.

Before you all start to attack me I know you think nanene is the only true GnP solution out there. Well ok but why then is it not selling and others have just sold their products to Ford Motor company?

[ellissj] 09/10/2018 14:09

Exactly, comparing xg to vrs lacks credibility. it's like comparing a lada to a bentley ! Fools gold to gold etc. Aimo. Best ellis

[9degrees] 09/10/2018 14:08

per primary bid today Barclays Smart Investor nominees have still not allocated the subscription shares . Anyone else in this boat ?

[johnveals] 09/10/2018 14:05

There is a place for low grade graphene/graphite but that is not where Versarien is concentrating their efforts. Why compete with a low grade product when you have the quality stuff.

Yet again the derampers and shorters take a small part of the story and attempt to do Versarien down whilst ignoring the full picture.

Close your shorts guys, take the hit, it could be your last chance.

[redchef] 09/10/2018 14:04

I think this somewhat humble Tweet, short and sweet, may possibly be the one with the most profound connotations "Unless the deal is right we won't get a licence from Uk government"This if nothing else, combined with the unprecedented secondment of Govt officials, implies the importance of VRS' IP to the future of the British Economy with huge implications for where our future international USP lies post Brexit and possibly as a leverage on Brexit negotiations

[ellissj] 09/10/2018 14:02

1 tonne to 3 tonne when new machinery arrives december, per twitter. Glalth. Best ellis

[willoicc] 09/10/2018 14:02

Thanks CS.

[club sandwich] 09/10/2018 14:00

I work on £1m per T, so no, you're not wrong... ;-)

[willoicc] 09/10/2018 13:55

54,000 tonnes by 2025 = 54,000,000 kg = 54,000,000,000 grams at a lowly £1 per gram = £54 billions.

Maybe I got the calculation wrong?

[runthejoules] 09/10/2018 13:54

'may be a float on the nyse to coincide with the Hongkong exchange.'

Hahahaha F off 🐑 🐱 What are you 12?

[loglorry1] 09/10/2018 13:50

I see your CEO Ricketts has tweeted that current production is at 1kg/shift (day?). That's a rather pitiful quantity and way behind competitors like XG Sciences who are at 200 tonnes/year and growing rapidly.

Incidentally I received an email from Philip Rose PhD the CEO of XG Sciences today it reads as follows

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What you want to see is companies adopting for commercial use. Here is another end-user of our products.



Best regards,

Philip L. Rose, Ph.D.
CEO
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Remember XGS has a market cap around 1/10th that of VRS.

Why are you not asking much harder questions of your CEO and Chairman. Why has he not delivered on timescales he provided a few months ago? He says himself this is a race.

VRS is doing deals with tiny independent headphone companies meanwhile some of the competition is actually selling their product to the words biggest car manufactures like the one today announced with Ford.

[ellissj] 09/10/2018 13:39

I see neill playing a straight bat on twitter and avoiding traps some are trying to lay imo. Best ellis

[chimpandy1] 09/10/2018 13:38

I found a picture of rainbow when he realised just how much money he was down! https://goo.gl/images/MC8M8F

[chimpandy1] 09/10/2018 13:35

In your nightmares rainbow ;-)