Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[ellissj] 19/9/2018 07:17

As far as vrs (and all shares) is concerned it how the general markets interpret the 'trade war' that matters; and their reaction appears positive ie good recovery on Dow Jones yesterday and stable overnight in Asia. Aimo. Best ellis

[rainbow23] 19/9/2018 07:12

How big will the red end be today? At least as big as yesterday's I'd say.

[1teepee] 19/9/2018 07:09

So the within two months was not entirely accurate.

[fuji99] 19/9/2018 07:07

Regarding the "trade war", the US tariffs are on China. China will apply the same on US goods. It is not a boycott of Chinese goods. That's all and there is no connection with individual countries on how they deal with China. Some people are really mixing everything.

[sonsonnyjim] 19/9/2018 07:04

No news, interesting to see what happens to the SP, hopefully the late afternoon buying continues

[ellissj] 19/9/2018 07:02

Agreed super, and that's why standards and certified products sorely needed to progress the emerging 2D industry; and hopefully coming soon. The volume of collabs announced re vrs since iso publication demonstrate industry know vrs have the real deal here.

And those who seek to disrupt fair discourse, compare apples and pears describing them as the same eg layers is the main term used to differentiate graphene and graphite in the iso standards; hence nanene is described in terms of layers. Others choose to describe the actual physical measurement of their product ie in NM. Yet graphene is 0.4 nm thick ! So it's easy to understand 5 layer graphene product has less layers than a 5nm product ! Dyor. Best ellis

'Atomic force microscopy (AFM) is one of the most widely used techniques for characterizing the number of layers, since the original work of Novoselov et al. established that monolayer graphene is 0.4 nm thick [1].'

 

[superg1] 19/9/2018 06:48

Serratia

The beauty of putting in the mileage on research is that I know you know your stuff and understand GNPs.

EG I don't know if it's the topic but the FGR claims of the comprehensive data sent is a farce. Hell fire are they saying they had no idea VRS existed to make the data sheet claim.

They are correct when they say very few out out data sheets, I know I've hunted high and low for them.

The general rule is if you see large laterals it usually means the layers increase as the laterals go up and that is typical for all producers.

EG some to get to under 10 layers end up with lateral sizes 300nm and less which is too small to bond with composites, it doesn't have enough surface area. Then if laterals get too large they fold and crumple in the process creating issues.

As you know those details are in various science papers on graphene.

Then there is the factor that a number of different types of graphene and graphite can be used in various products. Graphite will improve the thermal conductivity of anything with poor conductivity, the same re electrical. It may however weaken the product, it all depends if strength is important.

Compression. I have yet to get to the bottom of that one few layer is best for UTS (tensile strength) which is the pulling apart. Compression may allow higher layer. I say that as I see some with more layers mentioned for compression but I've not looked into compression deeply enough but the ones that mention it tend to have graphite not graphene hence my suspicions re compression. But knowing their BS you can't trust a word they say.

There are many pieces to the jigsaw re different types of graphene for various uses. Few layer happens to carry through all the gains of graphene into whatever it's used in. Multi and many layer can't as the bonds between the layers are weak, so the strength failure on those mult-layer joints not the graphene layer itself.

If some made the effort then they would understand why there are many graphene frauds out there which is why the experts want the standards in sharpish. Graphene producers won't want]t it as over 90% of them suddenly drop off the graphene producer list.

That would sting a bit especially for the public ones who talk BS to fund managers to get cash. A few fund managers have been stung badly already and are starting to realise it.

[bootie64] 19/9/2018 04:18

The signing ceremony this week between Cadenza Innovation and Shenzhen BAK Power Battery Co., Ltd. has to be encouraging news for VRS investors."Through this partnership, this innovative technology will be commercialized by both parties"BAK Partners with Lithium-ion Battery Technology Company Cadenza Innovation to Introduce Startup's "Supercell" Platform.htTps://cadenzainnovation.com/press-releases/bak-partners-with-lithium-ion-battery-technology-company-cadenza-innovation-to-introduce-startups-supercell-platform-to-china/The companies announced that they will cooperate to manufacture Li-ion cells and modules based on Cadenza Innovation's supercell architecture, which provides higher safety, lower cost and higher energy density.Founded in 2012 by lithium-ion battery experts with more than 125 patents, Cadenza Innovation is capitalizing on its intellectual property, field-proven operational and mass production expertise and partner network to establish itself as a leader in low cost, safe and energy dense storage solutions.Founded in Shenzhen, China in 2001, BAK Battery has grown into a leading international energy company integrating R&D, production, sales and recycling of lithium-ion power batteries and consumer digital batteries.So with patents and IP the USA and China have signed an agreement :)

[occultusverum1] 19/9/2018 00:52

For instance Chinas worldwide exports total >2 Trillion. Irans <150 billion of which 80% is crude oil.
The world has no choice but to trade with China.
Did you notice Trump didnt put any tariffs on items which would affect Apples supply chain?

[occultusverum1] 19/9/2018 00:34

You think that America can stop other countries dealing with China? Im not sure youve thought this through.

[sadddles] 18/9/2018 23:50

Brilliant company,
Fantastic Information Board.

What else is there to say!!!

[dreamtwister] 18/9/2018 23:49

trump put sanctions on iran and any body dealing with iran will not trade with the usa,

trumps trade war with china will hold others to ransome if they deal with china.

[dreamtwister] 18/9/2018 23:42

Think Very....Very....Carefuly.........Usa .....Or......China..... !

[occultusverum1] 18/9/2018 23:31

I think its really funny how you think its one or the other.

[dreamtwister] 18/9/2018 23:10

china or the usa.....think very very carefully !

[1retirement] 18/9/2018 22:31

450 a point? Lol. Come back sure when you're playing with proper money.

[serratia] 18/9/2018 22:27

It would be easy to explain to log why the companies he mentions don't compete with Nanene regarding their spec/materials.
Why though as he might buy the ones he mentions and increase his shorts on VRS and learn a lesson. Wouldn't want to deter him from going long on the supposed competition.

[sonsonnyjim] 18/9/2018 21:11

You're welcome

[ratpat999] 18/9/2018 20:51

I reckon you might be closing tomorrow ! Neill is back on twitter to calm the nerves (tad busy) on everything!!

[dianecarberry] 18/9/2018 20:38

Got 2 shorts open.

20,000@188p and 25000@179p

I will close at about 30p which is fair value.

[1retirement] 18/9/2018 20:26

Wonder who it was lost 1,500 a point?! Hmm, someone who used to frequent this board by his alter ego and has recently reappeared? Oh such a web of deceit he weaves.

[1retirement] 18/9/2018 20:25

Loglorry (Tim), you were leaving us in peace a couple of hours ago but within an hour you were back. Jeesh, even that was a lie.