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[tim3416] 05/9/2018 21:58

“They are seeing how many of them can fit in a Tesla” pmsl luckyorange :-)

[spideyyy] 05/9/2018 21:54

How about still enjoying themselves and no phone reception?

[festario] 05/9/2018 21:47

Oh God, I thought I was nuts.... but you lot are INSANE!

[ridicule] 05/9/2018 21:42

I think Shavian was there! Did you pick anything up Shavion?

[luckyorange] 05/9/2018 21:30

They are seeing how many of them can fit in a Tesla or trying to find Chris after he holed in one and hasn't turned up to buy the drinks.

[festario] 05/9/2018 21:29

Like Candyman, you must never EVER utter the name SuperG 3 times. He will be evoked and appear..... once disturbed he will smite you down with furious anger.

[sonsonnyjim] 05/9/2018 21:25

Most likely they're in the clubhouse and enjoying themselves rather than having signed a Nda... Lol

[graphite bot] 05/9/2018 21:22

I think they have been sworn to silence.
hope they all had a terrific day with Neill and the team. I am sure that when they are able to talk there will be no stopping them . option 5. Neill has taken them all out with his rugby mates and they are all to hammered to see the keyboard. Good night all . Fingers crossed for the morning.

[lovat scout] 05/9/2018 21:18

Careful Fest...wouldn’t want Ron Hubbard’s followers feeling threatened 😁

[festario] 05/9/2018 21:14

Shavian was there wasn't he? Are you ignoring his post?Forest Fred!! You cannot meet the great SuperG, he is an ethereal being, legendary and Godlike.He is omnipresent and omnipotent, he exists only in the minds of those who worship him.He may even be angered by you and I using his name in vain!

[dreamcatcher1] 05/9/2018 21:14

Ok then, they may have abandoned the golf mid morning. lol

[luckyorange] 05/9/2018 21:11

Option 3, way past their bedtime.

[rafboy] 05/9/2018 21:07

Wind up a possibility. Almost certain someone would have posted something about the day by now unless!!!

[forestfred] 05/9/2018 21:05

Festario

Superg1

Man or myth .
So you have met him them , many still live in awe and hope .

Ff

[festario] 05/9/2018 21:05

I'm relaxed too, more than ever.I like your option 1, it made me smile, but I think neither are the case.They're having a good time still, they've had a great social occasion, they have nothing to impart..... and are enjoying a day away from this ludicrous board.

[dreamcatcher1] 05/9/2018 21:04

or 3 they are doing the night shift as a huge order has arrived. :-))

[lovat scout] 05/9/2018 21:00

Fest - I’m relaxed! I think there are only 2 scenarios that could keep the golfers quiet.

1. A big wind up to see how far they can get everyone speculating.

2. Inside information was declared, probably inadvertently, and therefore all are sworn to silence.

Option 1 is my favourite 😀

[grabster] 05/9/2018 20:57

Author only looking at one of the alternatives to lithium..

Relentless cost reductions over the past decade have made solar panels and wind turbines increasingly competitive with coal and natural gas.

Now the same thing is happening with batteries, allowing electric cars to become cheaper and electric grids to store surplus energy for when it is needed.

The cost of lithium-ion batteries has fallen by 75 per cent over the past eight years, measured per kilowatt hour of output. Every time battery production doubles, costs fall by another 5 per cent to 8 per cent, according to analysts at Wood Mackenzie.

But, unlike solar panels, increasing battery production alone will not be enough to ensure price falls inexorably without action to tackle shortages of their key ingredients. Lithium-ion batteries contain scarce metals such as cobalt, over half of which is mined in the Democratic Republic of Congo. The price of cobalt has doubled over the past two years, raising the cost of producing battery cells.

The risk of a bottleneck in the supply of materials used in the standard power source of the world’s growing fleet of electric vehicles is a future concern.

The good news is that attempts are under way not only to boost the amount of energy batteries can hold using the same amount of raw materials, but also to switch to more abundant metals.

Investors have poured money into start-ups promising new battery technologies, while the largest battery companies are switching to batteries that use more nickel than cobalt. Utilities keen to develop static power storage facilities are also looking at using so-called flow batteries that use recyclable materials such as vanadium.

Since Sony commercialised them in 1991, lithium-ion batteries have played a vital role in the digital revolution, allowing us to use our smartphones and tablets all day and then recharge them at night. Their ability to deliver sharp bursts of stored energy also make them the technology of choice for electric cars.

(chart)

Wood Mackenzie estimates battery demand for transportation is set to rise by almost forty times by 2040.

China is likely to be building the bulk of those batteries over the next few decades, as the number of battery factories in the country expands. Half of global battery production capacity is likely to be in China by 2028, according to Benchmark Mineral Intelligence.

That growth will put increasing pressure on the raw material supply chain. As a result the largest carmakers are already switching to lithium-ion batteries that use 75 per cent less cobalt than current technology.

Low cobalt batteries will make up the majority of the electric car market by 2025, according to Wood Mackenzie.

“Not only does this battery chemistry ease the supply constraints and ethical concerns arising from high cobalt use, but it also provides far superior energy density over the traditional chemistry, thereby reducing overall materials costs,” the consultancy says.

Utilities can also switch to so-called flow batteries, which work by storing energy in large separate tanks of liquid electrolyte that is then pumped through a cell. Such batteries can use different materials such as vanadium, a metal currently used in the steel industry.

Vanadium batteries have the benefit of not losing their capacity — a process known as degradation — as quickly as lithium-ion batteries. Vanadium material can also be easily reused.

“We rent the vanadium electrolyte,” Scott McGregor, the chief executive of UK-based company RedT Energy, says. “It’s the first resource in the energy sector that you don’t consume.”

China dominates production of vanadium, producing half of the world’s supplies. Its value has doubled over the past year, due to growth in steel demand. However vanadium is a more abundant material globally than cobalt. If market forces stimulate more extraction and drive down the price of vanadium, this could increase the uptake of batteries based on the element and reduce overall dependence on existing lithium-ion technology.


(Henry Sanderson, yesterday, FT)

[woodpeckers] 05/9/2018 20:54

What paranoia are you seeing fest, cos I can't see any...??? Sitting comfy... :-)

[festario] 05/9/2018 20:52

The extent of the paranoia on here is breathtaking.

[lovat scout] 05/9/2018 20:50

Omerta 😜

[dreamcatcher1] 05/9/2018 20:48

At a guess how many investors played or went along to the golf?

[woodpeckers] 05/9/2018 20:47

Wasting our time Andy, they're all sloshed in the bar, won't get any sense out of them til Friday...

[woodpeckers] 05/9/2018 20:45

Are you guys still out there????

[andymoore07] 05/9/2018 20:44

This is weird how there hasn't been one post from today! At all....no pics on Twitter of the winner?! What's going on!!!