Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Velocys Plc LSE:VLS London Ordinary Share GB00B11SZ269 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -0.125p -0.36% 34.25p 33.00p 35.50p 33.50p 33.00p 33.50p 57,023 16:35:22
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Oil Equipment Services & Distribution 1.4 -14.1 -8.8 - 50.21

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
17/11/2017
16:39
I completely agree gac141. I don't understand why the share price is languishing at this level, especially considering that the risks are now less and the opportunity is far greater. VLS does appear to be somewhat off the radar...
thebigshortfella
17/11/2017
10:20
You make a fair point EJ... I do wonder what they do for us and perhaps a change is required. Digest has never had a call from Camarco according to Jim. We are at the most exciting actual and real stage that we have ever been at!
gac141
16/11/2017
16:43
The danger is gac141, that all too often consumers will use Social Media to vent fustration in a very public environment. Hence that is why the vast majority of them do NOT allow contributors to post. As you have seen the Facebook presence has incorrect information for VLS and it will take time and resource to either amend the information or monitor the information. I don't believe that there is any need at this stage in the development of VLS for the post of Marketing Manager. Where we do agree is that more effort needs to be made by VLS in terms of its public face and that the current outfit perhaps is not effective.
erogenous jones
16/11/2017
16:10
I disagree for once EJ- We are a company that produces an exceptionally green clean product and it would not take too much for us to raise awareness of this. Fulcrum have a Facebook page and interestingly a Instagram page. Velocys has Facebook but old address and no posts and no Instagram page although there is a Velocys1 site take a look at the about us...! I agree you don't want to spend ages on it but we have a Marketing Manager so why couldn't they do it? It might bring in new shareholders who agree on clean energy. Just saying.
gac141
16/11/2017
14:17
gac141 - I rather side with the PR company as, social media would, I believe, be a disaster for VLS. For a start this is not a consumer facing venture, second that the maintenance of a social presence is a full time job either with nothing whatever to do or having to cope with long winded and repetitive questions from what are for the most part pretty illiterate consumers. Third that even if VLS were generating sales of product, these are not really the sorts of products that the general public are terribly interested in, let alone able to buy. Of much greater appeal would be the occasional factual article in the "in-flight" magazine on how the fuel to power some jets is sourced as a renewable. But let's get to the point where sales are of sufficient volumes to record on the P & L accounts.
erogenous jones
16/11/2017
11:40
Vision on... I checked with Jim lane on the November timeline for quotas and this was his response. Hi George, Yes, November, and they have pledged to do better on dates as it is a deadline which has been more observed in the breach in recent years. regards, Jim Very frustrated with PR ...what I think has been missed is PR brings in new people into the company and there is plenty of good news to come but it keeps the shares traded and avoids this constant drop in the share price from only a tiny amount being sold. I asked about social media and got a pretty poor response from our illustrious PR company. Time for a new one as far as I am concerned.
gac141
16/11/2017
07:45
No problem. Added to which, we shouldn't rule out VLS winning a grant for Natchez. There is a military drop in fuels award of $55m seemingly still up for grabs and presumably if RR don't use their grant then it might also be up for other grabs. Fulcrum have a grant and chose not to use loan guarantee also. Which suggests you can have both. And VLS already have the bank lined up, and a big one at that.
visionon
15/11/2017
17:36
I stand corrected. Gac is right. The Red Rock Biofuels $70M funding from the DPA Title III under the Advanced Drop-In Biofuels Production Project, as did Fulcrum and Emerald. Those are grants. In Red Rock's case they need close to $200M to build the plant. The 1,400 bpd BTL plant that Velocys is developing with TRI is the one which might receive a loan guarantee from the USDA. Thanks, Vision to point out my mistake.
fluky
15/11/2017
09:54
Fluky I think you are wrong, and GAC right. It is a grant. But it only meets part of the cost, which is why RR were seeking money via bonds for the remainder. hxxp://www.stockmarketwire.com/article/4889395/Velocys-customer-awarded-70m-BTL-construction-grant.html
visionon
15/11/2017
07:54
gac141: RR does not receive a $70M grant as you stated in #854, it is loan guarantee. RR still needs to find the investment - loan - bond to build that plant. "A loan guarantee is a contractual obligation between the government, private creditors and a borrower—such as banks and other commercial loan institutions—that the Federal government will cover the borrower’s debt obligation in the event that the borrower defaults." from DOE website.
fluky
14/11/2017
21:53
Always the perennial problem with AIM companies and boards, they try to run before they can walk. Probably greed driving them, instead of concentrating on one project which provides revenue for further expansion rather than expecting long suffering shareholders picking up the tab again. Maybe think of a dividend first and foremost, not many AIM companies pay one...
beeezzz
14/11/2017
16:13
I have to agree with Deutsch, which will upset the Polyanna types. Lots of focus on prospects and hoped for rewards which somehow always remains just out of reach. And an almost total disregard for the risks.
goodgrief
14/11/2017
15:18
Thanks GAC. That won't please Deutsche though, 30 Nov is a date in the future...and 2018 even further so. We need a time machine. Perhaps it could run on woody biomass.
visionon
14/11/2017
14:59
I would feel a lot more comfortable if the chatter on here was more about existing production and ensuing revenue. The future can be exciting but we can't live on tomorrows Jam for much longer. - We need to demonstrate (with current revenue) that we have left the development years behind. - It is also time that the payroll at least came out of revenue. - Someone needs to sharpen the focus!
deutsch3
14/11/2017
14:07
Yes visionon Jim does a good job! Yes I agree RR could be a steal with the $70m grant behind it...I wonder what's going on???? EPA- By the 30th is the date I recall.
gac141
14/11/2017
13:30
Also interesting to see variety of different technologies and stages of advancement. End November EPA will confirm cellulosic levels for 2018 under RFS. Important and in GAC diary I recall... Other interesting trend is that more Americans seem to be buying E15 etc. Hopefully a sign that consumer power might start to influence things more in coming years.
visionon
14/11/2017
13:20
Interesting update from Mr Lane on cellulosic space. Alphabetical order. Noteworthy is slide 23...it seems that Red Rock have bought themselves out of Flagship. I wonder if VLS and partners might be eyeing up an opportunity here. The plant has consents offtakers and grants. Just needs $180m or so of additional financing...but VLS could get control if they did a deal with RR owners. It might be a quick route to plant 2, albeit gasification partner is different and doubtless other complications. hxxp://www.biofuelsdigest.com/bdigest/2017/11/13/30-hot-cellulosic-technologies-30-quick-takes/23/
visionon
14/11/2017
08:39
I wonder if there is an order that needs to be filled? The bid has been jiggling around every few seconds, indicative of drawing a sell order.
erogenous jones
10/11/2017
20:24
hxxp://biofuels-news.com/display_news/13111/abengoa_helps_to_build_fulcrum_bioenergys_wastetobiofuels_plant_in_the_us/ Work starting on Fulcrum plant. The fact that it got funded is encouraging. The news that the EU are now backtracking on aviation biofuel criteria less so.
visionon
08/11/2017
17:45
£23m sounds logical. TRI test. I think the USDA require 120 days running ie. 17 weeks. Judging by the recent Fulcrum article. The interview was an improvement on the turgid BRR material. Thank you David Pummel for that. GAC. Has the USDA timescale slipped by 6mths ? He said 15mths from now and plant running 3yrs from now. The cheaper finance for subsequent plants makes sense, the same happens with wind energy etc. More known, less worried about.
visionon
08/11/2017
13:00
Have just checked out the full 20 min interview and here is a summary for the short on time: The plan down the line is still to integrate our FT equipment with gasifiers, reformers, etc. "We're pretty damn good at that". A lot of time and effort spent 12 months ago working out which markets VLS should be in. We're now in a real program, which is "driving forward at pace". The BA & Suez project is also building "at pace". Having ENVIA now working at commercial scale is "a fundamental shift of gears". Revenue will come from selling technology through licensing, asset management and project management fees and operations capability (i.e. bringing in their own staff to tweak the plant and get it working at maximum efficiency). I take that to mean that the equity stakes are therefore just a nice little bonus on the side (although potentially very lucrative in their own right). We won't be a capital intensive business - other people will provide the bulk of the finance on future projects. Our role is to act as the business model that allows other people's projects to progress. We aim to become the go-to people for these types of projects - "come to Velocys, because we know where to build them, we know how to build them [and] we will deliver them". Natchez plant will be a 20m gallon p.a. It will produce either renewable jet fuel or renewable diesel, they haven't yet decided which. They don't need to until nearer the time. it's now about getting the programme to finance and getting it built. Should be selling products from it within 3 years. UK plant should be selling products within 4-4.5 years, but hopefully quicker depending on the other partners. They won't be sitting on their hands in the meantime. Over the next 3 years, the plan is to identify the sites for plants 3, 4 and 5. They want to accelerate a large number of plants into the market over the next few years. Canaccord estimate £23m of funding is needed. What does David say, is that a reliable estimate and where will it come from? David didn't address the figure, but talked about what they will need money for. Primarily a feed study (detailed engineering study) for Natchez plant, plus licensing costs for partner technologies. VLS has a fantastic relationship with the USDA and reckon they should have the $200m loan guarantee within 15 months. One key aspect of getting this is a joint demonstration trial with gasification partner TRI. This is kicking off shortly and will run for a number of weeks. It will prove to the USDA that if you put woody biomass into TRI's gasifier and feed it into our FT tech, we generate the products that we say we do. This takes money (which will also come from a future fundraise), but the end result (i.e. the loan) is well worth it. We will attract D7 credits, as well as additional credits from individual states (e.g. California, Oregon). Makes the economics "highly attractive". Each additional project will generate higher returns, as we will start to attract lower rate debt. We will also be able to reduce construction costs through economies of scale, etc. Strategy is to "sit across the table from large global energy companies and have a symmetric conversation with them". We're not in it for plant 1, we're "in it for plant 20, plant 30 and that's the approach" Thanks to poster on iii
gac141
08/11/2017
10:26
Dreadful waffle no mention of income or return on investment - evasive of any information on Envia or when break even will arrive. - Not even jam tomorrow - If anyone has a useful alternative view let's hear it.
deutsch3
08/11/2017
08:53
https://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/shares/2017/11/07/boardroom-talk-velocys/
25october1969
08/11/2017
08:24
David Pummell was on Investors Chronicle "Boardroom talk" last night. Did anyone hear it?
gac141
07/11/2017
16:11
hxxp://biofuels-news.com/display_news/13089/alliance_bioenergy_plus_inks_exclusive_brokerage_agreement_with_progressive_fuels/ Another technology making progress. They recently bought a mothballed ethanol plant and are converting it for their process.
visionon
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