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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Van Elle Holdings Plc LSE:VANL London Ordinary Share GB00BYX4TP46 ORD 2P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.50 1.15% 44.00 43.00 45.00 44.00 43.50 43.50 3,500 10:25:09
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Industrial Engineering 84.4 -2.2 -3.0 - 47

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16/4/2019
12:34
That's pretty funny it predicts the share price at 4.5 pence a share within 12 months. Worth watching to see how it pans out
creditcrunchies
16/4/2019
02:04
hxxps://walletinvestor.com/lse-stock-forecast/vanl-stock-prediction this does not look like a good outlook !
jamesk3
15/4/2019
16:01
So this company is a dead man walking basically time to take this off a watch list
creditcrunchies
11/4/2019
23:39
Morale of story is not what you know but who you know that gets you around...
diku
11/4/2019
18:42
Thanks for the heads up!I just want throw eggs at the whole lot of them at this years AGM after hearing all that.Work till I drop it is for me then. Oh well, could be worse...
gavbro0
11/4/2019
11:05
jwball you are right and Bullock only had 6 months experience as a divisional director prior to leaving for Asia. It's madness as you said.
twinks1
11/4/2019
10:07
The problem with the new staff is that they aren't new at all. Pete Handley (Strategy and Business Improvement Director) left the company around ten years ago and came back, as did Mick Mason Senior Group Director)went to work for McNicholas as their HS Manager and John Bullock (Divisional Director, Specialist Piling) has worked in oil and gas for six years in Asia so is totally out of the loop, so to be given a directorship in the Piling division is madness.
jwball
11/4/2019
09:39
Rail, although a part of the organisation is not the main focus of VE. Large Piling is, and they are struggling, you only have to drive passed the VE yard to see all the masts standing idle. I agree with everything you say, though it is the various other divisions within VE that are also struggling. All the plant and equipment has been bought on HP so the repayments will be crippling the firm of the money is not coming in. CP6 will prove difficult for the reasons you have stated, though I fear for the company as a whole. The newly appointed staff will quickly jump ship when they realise it is sinking.
citizen_kane
11/4/2019
08:42
And so the share price spirals downwards. Ypu left out boardroom 'issues' that magnify the situation.
redartbmud
11/4/2019
08:38
The rose tinted view of shareholders never ceases to amaze me in trying to justify under performing companies in what seems blatantly obvious Some points; Market leaders in their field - self proclaimed as were Carillion and Interserve Invested in a lot of machinery - that is not being used Set up a training academy - looks good, but is probably to rain in spiralling training costs Foundations specialists - CP6 has been set out as more maintenance bias in replacing old worn out infrastructure not as in CP5 massive projects requiring foundations. Talent on the tools and talent in the office - they are leaving for companies with a healthy workbank. There is no money to be made by Tier 2 contractors on the railway as they are being screwed by Tier 1s. Projects are poorly planned by NWR in terms of timescale and budget. Then they are screwed even tighter by the Tier 1 contractors who pass all risk onto the supply chain in delivering works which are guaranteed to be over budget and over time. Money is withheld for any reason that can be thought of no matter what payment charters are in place. The SMEs are now struggling with cashflow which leads to their own supply chain refusing to provide them with the necessary equipment, labour or materials to function which in turn affects the performance for the Tier 1s and the circle continues until one of them goes bust. The railway industry as it is at present is dying and the majority of companies will die with it.
learos187
10/4/2019
19:09
Interesting point.For me the positives are that they are market leaders in their field (that's what their website says anyway), have invested a lot in machinery. Also, have set up a training academy to train up their own skilled workers ( which is the way forward for front line technical progression).Overall, the outlook for foundations specialists like them don't look too crash hot with Brexit uncertainties, HS2 uncertainties and maybe, just maybe, the top brass they have employed.At the end of the day though, you don't need really need top of the line corporate types to run this company. I mean, it's just a niche building company.You just need good, smart clever engineers who are on the tools in the front line and the same sort of talent the office.
gavbro0
10/4/2019
17:40
“jwball: Yes twinks I see what you mean. I think they have a director of cleaners :) Director in name only a lot of them. In the old days I think it was a thing that Ellis did, give them a fancy title and then not pay them as much.” The Director of Cleaners will be the busiest man in Van Elle. What with all the mopping up of the mess which is being made within the company at present.
citizen_kane
10/4/2019
17:02
£40k of stock in an entire day can move the price of the company 5% for a market cap close to £50 million. Some blue chips I've got I sell that amount in one click in seconds at the quoted price. That's the AIM market totally illiquid, the sales have been small relative to it's cap moving the stock from 80p to 40p
creditcrunchies
10/4/2019
16:54
The tone is following the share price which has got a liquidity problem small sales triggering large declines
creditcrunchies
10/4/2019
14:36
I remember Jarvis well Diku, but don't see any similarities with Van Elle. The excessively downbeat tone on this board is interesting to me, although I'm just watching Van Elle at the moment and haven't bought any yet. It reminds me much more of the posts about Laing after their fall from grace years ago, where posters were calling for the head of Sir Martin Laing. Laing shares (LNGO) recovered well in the following couple of years.
muckshifter
10/4/2019
13:31
The spread on this stock is huge you make a -10% loss as soon as you buy them, certainly keeps buyers away a bit of a dogs dinner. Another AIM dog candidate
creditcrunchies
10/4/2019
10:39
Most sold between 85 and 95p
twinks1
10/4/2019
09:13
Brings back memories of Jarvis...anybody remember?...
diku
10/4/2019
09:13
if they did well it was overvalued so now we're seeing it getting towards its market value of say mid 30s possibly
creditcrunchies
10/4/2019
09:09
Although lots of them did ok from the IPO but most of them have already sold their shares..
twinks1
10/4/2019
08:37
you just see a drip drip of small sell orders every day with the share price plunging from 70p to 40p over that period
creditcrunchies
10/4/2019
07:38
Yes twinks I see what you mean. I think they have a director of cleaners :) Director in name only a lot of them. In the old days I think it was a thing that Ellis did, give them a fancy title and then not pay them as much.
jwball
10/4/2019
02:01
This is a valid question then: Is Van Elle Holdings plc (LON:VANL) A Smart Pick For Income Investors? Https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/van-elle-holdings-plc-lon-101409208.html
creditcrunchies
09/4/2019
19:41
Which one? A fake paper one or a proper one? Literally every man in a managerial position is called a director!
twinks1
09/4/2019
16:04
Another Director ‘left’ the company this week with more to follow before the end of year results.
citizen_kane
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