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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Van Elle Holdings Plc LSE:VANL London Ordinary Share GB00BYX4TP46 ORD 2P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.50 1.15% 44.00 43.00 45.00 44.00 43.50 43.50 3,500 10:25:09
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Industrial Engineering 84.4 -2.2 -3.0 - 47

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09/4/2019
08:54
this stock is dive bombing a classic penny share now, potential for recovery though but hard to gauge when it just collapses like this.
creditcrunchies
08/4/2019
11:51
Citizen Kane thats correct, they said no to JF returning. Currently they are renting their offices out on Summit Close and the VE staff are in portacabins...read into that what you will. The current CEO took a massive pay increase and the company has nose dived. Most people with industry expertise have jumped ship, the few that remain have no corporate background at all.
twinks1
08/4/2019
08:50
Ellis was pushed, JF left for family matters, handed in his notice, changed his mind and wanted back in. Was swiftly told ‘No’. Is my understanding. I bet they wish they had accepted JF’s offer of return now.
citizen_kane
05/4/2019
09:14
Exactly, why leave so soon after IPO if everything was rosy?
jwball
04/4/2019
18:47
Then Ellis/Fenton left the company after IPO.
blueliner
04/4/2019
15:32
I didn't say it was recent but it gives you an idea of the background of the company, including a Chairman who can't remember what the award they won was for, who also only wanted more money.
jwball
04/4/2019
14:43
Why? This is not recent. The article refers to John Fenton?
citizen_kane
03/4/2019
16:17
This is worth a watch for anyone who hasn't seen it. hxxps://www.lseg.com/resources/1000-companies-inspire-britain/van-elle
jwball
02/4/2019
09:37
Nobody is talking it down. However it would appear you are trying to talk it up :)
jwball
01/4/2019
21:47
Have you guys bought in yet? Or are you still trying to talk VANLs share price down? Its starting to be walked up again over the last couple of sessions by the MMs, so a good chance (last chance?) to still buy below 50p....DYOR and good luck! Rich
lammylover
28/3/2019
10:32
They aren't an equipment hire company though? They need the machines to carry out contracts so that capital needs to be tied up.
jwball
28/3/2019
08:20
I'm thinking this is a recovery play once it finds a bottom, trouble is equipment hire companies like this can stay flat for a long time before they turnaround. I read one of Pauly's reviews on this company he wrote about a year ago where he said at the time it looked pretty healthy cash wise and asset wise but companies like this have too much capital tied up in machinery that it affects the overall growth of the company, too much profit is piled back into new machinery. It kind of reminds me of a recovery play scenario you used to see in the old Penny Share Guide back in the 90s, not sure what happened to that btw because I don't follow stuff like that anymore.
creditcrunchies
27/3/2019
23:42
The broker's estimates are £5.15 Million net profit for full year down from £7.34 Million in 2018. I just wonder if we are going to see worse than this estimate. So if the second half isn't expected to improve we could see another dive perhaps 35p share price a possibility Back in January 2019: LONDON (Alliance News) - Van Elle Holdings PLC on Wednesday said it does not expect improvements in its performance in the second half of its current financial year following a sharp decline in its interim earnings. The stock was trading down 33% on Wednesday morning at 53.55 pence a share.
creditcrunchies
27/3/2019
23:32
I notice this from their half year results a pretty large miss due to Carillion debt and a slow down in infrastructure projects. I suspect this drop is pricing in a bad set of full year figures being expected as the economy has slowed even more in recent months and that was a factor for the last profit warning. Cutler said: “Since joining the business in August I have been taking action to refine the group’s commercial approach, streamline operations, strengthen the leadership team and refocus on our key customers. This is already creating a strong platform from which to pursue our growth strategy.” Van Elle’s half year results also show that its revenue decreased by 18.4% due to a slowdown in the housebuilding and infrastructure sectors. Operating profits over the period also fell 47.4% to £3M. Cutler added: “There is work to do at the front end in the marketing and the bidding for work. There is more to be done than I had expected in terms of operational performance.” He added: “We have rationalised the number of divisions in the business, down from eight to five. That reduced cost, reduced interfaces, simplified the business and concentrated on divisional structures that are more common sense in terms of the way that we explain ourselves to our customers and support the internal collaboration improvements that we are looking for.”
creditcrunchies
27/3/2019
23:27
Anybody remember Jarvis?...Carillion?...
diku
27/3/2019
22:43
Lammy the twitter looks like mainly recruitment adverts. Meaning they are expanding quickly or plenty have jumped ship!
jwball
27/3/2019
22:28
looks like they are walking it down a cliff edge though because these are -60% down from last year with a forward PE of 6. You typically only see that kind of figure if there is some serious trouble ahead
creditcrunchies
27/3/2019
21:17
VANL share price being walked down by MMs on low volume, during period between results. 64.4% of share capital still owned by IIs and Ellis etc. No big sellers, just uncertainty over Brexit affecting capex projects imo. Twitter account makes VANL look pretty busy. Plenty of upside here at this ridiculous price, will probably add some more...DYOR Rich
lammylover
27/3/2019
19:33
I think if Ellis decides to come back, they would welcome him back with open arms but the damage is done. Oh, how times change. After the year end results are published I can see a huge crash on the horizon.
citizen_kane
27/3/2019
19:09
this is quite a collapse materialising here for sure somethings up
creditcrunchies
27/3/2019
17:29
Post #454 - contractor or sub-contractor? In a sense, they are always a sub, as ground engineering is embedded into larger projects. But at the last HY, they had gross margins of 33%, which looks like a lot more control than a mere sub-contractor would have. Unfortunately KLR (their main comparative) doesn't separate out gross margins. It's over a year now since Ellis tried to take back control, so I suppose he could have another go. I don't hold any shares here, but the bare numbers don't look bad: NTA above the share price, positive net current assets, manageable debt, PER maybe 8.2x ... Could be just rubbish management (if the comments about staff leaving are true). Or they're fiddling the books? Not unknown.
jonwig
27/3/2019
16:49
The CEO with a history of almost destroying companies? Barhale springs to mind!
citizen_kane
27/3/2019
16:45
I quite agree wtf is the new big name, well touted CEO doing? what a shambles
gutterhead
27/3/2019
16:31
From what I understand it is now all about damage control. All the best staff have left the company and have been replaced by characters who have no industry knowledge nor experience. Staff are now leaving on a weekly basis. The Non-Exec members have lined their pockets and don’t give a damn about the company, the staff nor the share holders like us. It is now turning toxic.
citizen_kane
27/3/2019
14:30
I think a combination of both. When you are re-employing staff who left over ten years ago it doesn't look good.
jwball
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