Taylor Wimpey Share Discussion Threads

[fangorn2] 03/8/2011 08:14

Results for anyone wanting to read it all.

Not too bad in my view...

[goggin] 03/8/2011 08:07

Deep in the results
Net debt increased from GBP654.5 million at 31 December 2010 to GBP848.8 million at 3 July 2011, primarily due to the classification of GBP153.1 million of net cash in the North American operations as assets held for sale. On this basis, gearing at 3 July 2011 was 46.5% (31 December 2010: 41.2%).
This may or may not have a material effect on the share price, not likely but any further slippage and a rise in interest rates will take the wind out of wimpeys sales. Gearing still much too high at this recovery stage! Share price to fluctuate between 30 - 45p on till smog clears, then could be a great short back to the 5p range - but not now!

[gbh2] 03/8/2011 07:35

I wondered why the share price was blue yesterday, results modestly improved imo ;)

[libertine] 03/8/2011 07:22

Taylor Wimpey plc
Half Year Results for the period ended 3 July 2011
We have delivered further operational improvement in our UK business and, with an
operating margin of 9.3% for the first half of 2011, we are firmly on course to deliver a
double digit UK operating margin in 2012. The Group has delivered an operating profit
from continuing operations of £67.2 million (H1 2010: £51.1 million).

[sequoia] 02/8/2011 22:51

Good luck ED .
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[shaws37] 02/8/2011 22:08

good results posted tomorrow but the share price will still fall, espesh as the dow has collapsed.

[edsthebusiness] 02/8/2011 20:34

wow, that'll do it!

[sequoia] 02/8/2011 20:24

New site opening with 147 new homes.

[edsthebusiness] 02/8/2011 16:50

it's not just TW. The fking worlds coming to an end. Nostradamus was out by 1 year

Going to take the badass out with the kids for a run whilst there's still time

.ed

[shaws37] 02/8/2011 15:48

What is wrong with this heap. It should be in the 50's with hardly any debt hanging over it's neck.

[shaws37] 01/8/2011 15:41

You wouldn't think they are posting their results on Wed, down she goes again.

[fewdollarsmore] 01/8/2011 12:26

Thanks Smurfy - what was there comment when the price was dripping down little I suspect!

[smurfy2001] 01/8/2011 12:00

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Right then
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housebuilders are a good market today
Taylor Wimpey PLC (TW.:LSE): Last: 36.56, up 1.22 (+3.45%), High: 36.74, Low: 35.78, Volume: 1.21m
Barratt Developments Plc (BDEV:LSE): Last: 101.60, up 3.1 (+3.15%), High: 103.90, Low: 100.30, Volume: 594.07k
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just trying to figure out why
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there are a few interesting data points around
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such as
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The central London luxury-home prices costing on average ·3.7mn rose 9.6% in the 12 months through July, the most in six months, as the European investor sought a safe haven from economic instability, according to Knight Frank real-estate index.
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and this
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The continuing resilience in London house prices is triggering a long awaited move by institutional investors into UK residential property, with spiking rents finally attracting some of the country's largest companies into the market.
Corporate ownership of large rental portfolios has been well established in countries such as the US and Germany, but has been slow to take off in the UK in spite of government support for the concept.
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The demand is being driven, in part at least, by a lack of homes available and affordable for first time buyers. As a generation of would-be owners struggle to get on the housing ladder average London rents have hit a record high, climbing to more than the £1000 a month barrier for the first time in June, according to LSL Property Services.
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that's from the FT
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London property market a safe haven
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[kfp] 01/8/2011 11:43

Goldman Sachs upgrading builders,, except TW ?

[gbh2] 01/8/2011 09:30

Wouldn't be so bad if the f*cwits would stop diluting the share base with their frequent new allocations!!

[smurfy2001] 31/7/2011 15:16

Source of above:

[shaws37] 31/7/2011 13:06

Saw this on another shares site.

Interview dated 22/07/11


In 2008 Taylor Wimpey's chief executive was battling to rescue the firm from the brink of collapse, just months after the merged company became the UK's biggest housebuilder. Today it's back in growth and a far stronger business. Building talked to him about surviving tough times

Becoming the biggest housebuilder in the country is not an easy thing to achieve. And having got there - Taylor Wimpey is the number one housebuilder by turnover in Building's Top 150 contractors and housebuilders for the second year running - you might think chief executive Pete Redfern would be obsessed with retaining that number one spot. Well, you'd be wrong. His vision of the firm he created by merging two of the most historic names in UK housebuilding, is of a leaner company more focused on profit than scale. "We've very much changed our perspective," he admits. "You should not expect Taylor Wimpey in five years' time to be a small company, but our aim is to be the best, not the biggest. I'm very relaxed about not being the biggest."

Redfern is best known for navigating the group through the 2007 merger of George Wimpey and Taylor Woodrow - something he insists was not, even then, driven by a desire for scale. Either way, the combined group's debt left the business in a bad way when the credit crunch hit. So much so that there are many who thought Redfern, who is still only 40, and even Taylor Wimpey itself, wouldn't make it this far. The period included Taylor Wimpey reporting the biggest ever corporate loss by a UK housebuilder, a staggering £1.84bn for 2008.

For a time the youngest chief executive of a FTSE 100 company, Redfern was felt by some to be too inexperienced to take on the challenge. Yet he's still there, and so is his company. This month Taylor Wimpey concluded the £595m sale of the US arm of the business and the business is now back reporting profitable growth. So it rather looks like Redfern has proved his critics wrong. In fact, an increasing number of analysts are picking Taylor Wimpey as their key housing stock. So how on earth did he make it through the credit crunch? And where is he looking to take the business next?
On the brink of disaster

Redfern is a character who probably got used to being underestimated in the downturn. The £1.6m-a-year chief executive is not a big personality, and he doesn't go out of his way to dole out unneccessary social niceties. But if he's low key, he's equally fast talking and fast thinking. Talking to him, you have a sense of information being processed at lightning speed, with a ruthless brain sifting information for its pertinence. And what he lacks in charm, he more than makes up for in strength of decision-making and resilience. "One of the things I learned about myself during that period," he says, "was that I was tougher than I thought I was. Because when it gets tough, I do have a tendency to get my head down and do the right thing and get through. I probably do have more faith [in myself] now."

And there's no denying that, once Redfern had delivered the Taylor Woodrow deal just nine months after being appointed chief executive of George Wimpey, things got very tough, very quickly. When bank lending collapsed in the spring of 2008, Taylor Wimpey had £1.7bn of debt, and there was a real possibility the housebuilder would soon be in breach of its loan covenants, effectively forcing a refinancing. Things came to a head at the end of June that year, when Redfern's first attempt to refinance collapsed. He was in danger of becoming the youngest FTSE 100 chief executive to take a firm under. "In the nine months of renegotiation of that first refinancing from July 2008, to March 2009 - there were probably two moments when I felt there was a material risk of going under.

"And they lasted a day or so - particular negotiating sessions where it felt like it was going to the brink. That period, where life was changing so fast, that was stressful."

The tougher the times are, the more people want, above all else, clarity on where they're going

Did he ever question his decision to take the job on? "There were a couple of moments - I do mean moments - when I thought, why am I doing this, because it was an incredibly tough period. But I don't think there were any periods I regretted it; I just don't think there's a lot of point in having that kind of perspective."
Survival strategy

But if he wasn't doubting himself, there were plenty of others that were, including a number of housebuilders that saw Redfern, alongside Barratt chief executive Mark Clare, as symptomatic of the industry losing its way by hiring professional businessmen rather than people who had housebuilding in their blood. Taylor Wimpey quickly made about half of its nearly 10,000 staff redundant, posted that notorious loss and saw its shares drop in value to as little as 7.5p. It was only at the end of that long 2008 that the firm started to turn a corner.

Redfern insists it was his ability to take decisions early and provide leadership that enabled him to cope with the pressure. "The tougher the times are, the more people want, above all else, clarity on where they're going. I think we did develop a plan quite quickly. And once we'd got a plan, once I was clear in my mind what I wanted to do, what I needed to do, then actually a lot of that stress fell away."A reliance on lots of sport has also helped. "Running, swimming, football, squash. That's actually incredible in helping you to take the levels of stress and making you feel better about life.

So what is his plan? Actually that reference to not having to be the biggest housebuilder is central to it. It's about driving profits off more selective purchases of land, a strategy that is distinct from where Barratt, Bovis and Linden Homes are going at the moment, all of which are instead trying to open more and more sites. It is instructive that the competitor he most often judges himself against is not the similarly-sized Barratt, but Berkeley Group, which has restricted itself to a regional business to defend its profit margins. "I admire the way the firm adds value," he says. And he's scathing of those that do chase scale: "The belief that changing scale causes some of the biggest mistakes that housebuilders make, is very much ingrained within certainly me, but also our senior management team."

He also thinks the City should judge him not just by his profits, but also by the company's net asset value - the value of its land holdings - the way it does with commercial developers. All of which points to a business with more of a focus on strategic land purchases than feeding the immediate desire for oven-ready sites, and it's a long way from the original George Wimpey business. It's clear that the recession has been key not just to deciding on but also being able to deliver this strategy. "It [the credit crunch] was an opportunity to cut through a lot of history and a lot of distractions and get on with what needed to be done. We think a far stronger strategy, stronger land positions, a far stronger business came through it, and actually a lot of that is down to the fact it drives you to work out the simple clarity of what is important."
Adapting to change

Does that mean Taylor Wimpey is about to start building homes for rent like Berkeley has done, following the model of a commercial developer? While Redfern accepts a healthy private rental sector would be a good thing for the housing market as a whole, he rejects the notion that the numbers can be made to work. "Essentially the rental returns of circa 7% are still below the cost of capital for most of the industry. We do look at it every year, but it's very difficult to do more than the odd scheme."

The biggest challenge he sees, beyond the continued paucity of mortgage lending, is the impact of localism on the planning system. A year ago he dubbed the coalition's plans to abolish housing targets and introduce a new neighbourhood tier of the planning system, as "truly scary", and has since instituted a programme of training to ready his staff for the move to a new planning system.

So, having had more time to talk to politicians and, by his own count, 23 council chief executives, what does he think now? "It's not healthy to stick your head in the sand about it. As a developer, if we don't get this side of our business right it's vital, so we're better off trying to understand what's going on. And actually, I'd describe it as a significant opportunity - but still with some truly scary risks in the transitional phase to the new system."

At this point, you'd bet on Redfern to take advantage of that opportunity.

[edsthebusiness] 30/7/2011 19:03

Thanks JJ, .. it'l rocket now. Ho hum

[jibba_jabba] 29/7/2011 20:55

Good luck to you ed, you know what'll next...

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