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[joestalin] 04/11/2016 12:52

If I might paraphrase Gerry Adams - Nigel Farage has not gone away.

[kenobi] 04/11/2016 12:41

>> Ps...Kenobi - you'd be surprised at an election result, if we had one.

I doubt it, UKIP haven't exactly covered themselves with glory of late, it seems it was only farage holding them together, whoever they elect now will be unknown, and take time to establish themselves, labour, well where to start, the longest suicide note in history mk 2, lib dems, Tim Farron, again not had time to establish himself. What surprise are you alluding to ? perhaps the snp will field candidates down south ?

Would be interested in what you feel might happen,

[kenobi] 04/11/2016 12:20

On the other hand Peter, I guess you could argue that the remainers that have bought this case to prove the supremacy of parliament are the same eu supporters who have been happy to give these sort of powers to brussels all these years ?

No point fighting the referendum again, the judges have ruled, they should go to the house without any delay and get a mandate to invoke article 50 at their time of choosing.

K

[greyingsurfer] 04/11/2016 12:17

We've made a decision. It's now time to get on and implement it. That can't be done by subjecting every decision to parliamentary review.

Yes, the decision has to be implemented. But the decision is what? The meaningless Brexit means Brexit? There are fundamental choices to be made which were not discussed or voted on. If we attach any significance to our sovereignty and democracy, as I hope Brexiteers do, the those details have to be sorted out by parliament. Anything else would be to replace the fictional dictatorship by Brussels with an actual dictatorship by a small clique of hard line self promoters and Eurosceptics. There's no way the referendum would have got over 50% if that had been put in front of the electorate.

Peter

[emptyend] 04/11/2016 11:58

JoeStalin again makes the point. Authority to start the process via Article 50 has come DIRECTLY from the people. Obviously Parliament will have its say, both via the Remain-leaning committee chaired by Hilary Benn but also in the floor of the house (as happens nearly every day already).It is nonsense to pretend Parliament is being shut out - people are seeking to re-interpose Parliament in the Article 50 process PURELY with the objective of delay (and prolonging present damaging uncertainty!). That is why it should be resisted if there are grounds to do so.My reference to Remainiacs is fully justified by the daily interventions from undemocratic losers seeking to frustrate the will of the people.Ps...Kenobi - you'd be surprised at an election result, if we had one.

[joestalin] 04/11/2016 11:40

I am no legal expert either, but when a referendum delivers a clear mandate to the government to get us out of the corrupt EU, then the Commons should invoke article 50 before they even begin to argue about the details.

[kenobi] 04/11/2016 11:32

Peter ,

I agree, I think the government should not appeal, they should take it to the house, and make the case.

Unfortunately it will be a high stakes game, where if they don't pass it, we'll end up with a general election and this government will crush UKIP and labour both of whom are in disarray, and get a massive majority, then we'll all have to pay.

All for the principle that the government can't invoke article 50, not like they wouldn't have had a vote on leaving the eu, can't even invoke article 50.

I don't agree with the decision, but I'm no legal expert, my objections are based on the fact that it's probably inevitable, and it will delay and cause more damage when what we need is certainty and a swift resolution to this.

K

[greyingsurfer] 04/11/2016 11:15

bigoted Remainiacs who continue to try to frustrate the will of the people

Mmm, I thought the idea behind Brexit was to bring sovereignty back to the UK? So why are some Brexiteers so desperate that the whole basis of British Democracy - a parliament and an independent judiciary - should not be allowed anywhere near the actuality of deciding what form Brexit should take (when there was no clear view of what could/should happen) either presented before the vote or voted on? Doesn't bode well for the future.

Peter

[emptyend] 04/11/2016 10:33

Joe - think you are wrong on that. The "great unwashed" are showing great interest and the seeds of revolution are being sown. When Trump (who I don't much care for) gets elected next week, the whole Brexit debate will be heading for yet another level, thanks to bigoted Remainiacs who continue to try to frustrate the will of the people.That will be very damaging for the US, UK, EU and the whole of the "west"......but less damaging where assets are in Asia ;-)

[kenobi] 04/11/2016 10:10

Yes I'll be sorry to see it close down nigel, the soco board had gone quiet in recent years, and I visit only occasionally, but it's tough to monetise boards, especially when the boards are promoting avoiding investment funds and precisely the kind of products that might be used to sell advertising to fund them.

I hope stockopedia or someone like that steps up with boards to fill the space.

[invisage] 04/11/2016 10:02

ee your a one trick pony whose managed to convince a few readers you know wtf is going on.

[joestalin] 04/11/2016 10:00

a politically(judicially)- induced wobble today - designed, no doubt, to support their own agenda of anti-Brexit propaganda. Fortunately, the great unwashed that they despise so much, pay little attention to what they do.

[emptyend] 04/11/2016 09:56

There we go...wasting more time posting stuff no-one reads. ?UK market having a politically(judicially)- induced wobble today.....barely of consequence to an asset base thousands of miles away, but the bots don't pay any attention to that....

[invisage] 04/11/2016 09:51

Down she goes what a load of rubbish this soco is

[emptyend] 04/11/2016 09:42

Well that is likely true. They had a market-leading position and managed to completely blow it. And indeed I met many good people via TMF in its heyday.Meanwhile, I note that the cuckoo here seems to have got bored ;-)What we need here now is some reasonable news - hope that will be along in the next week or so...

[nigelpm] 04/11/2016 09:06

May well be the case ee but it's the reason why there's a hardcore of us who can network with each other and share ideas.

I had the pleasure of going to the Scottish fool meet up - must have been 10 years back now - and meeting yourself and others.

Without the fool, my experiences would have been very different - I owe a lot to it.

[emptyend] 04/11/2016 08:42

100% self-inflicted. Anyone who wants to see where their bonkers moderation policies went off the rails can find my last posts there in May 2009 - on the Civil Discussion board.Sad, but I'm glad not to have wasted another 7 years there.....

[joestalin] 04/11/2016 08:37

Motley fool is closing down? Self-inflicted, I think.

[emptyend] 03/11/2016 08:45

Expect an update in next few weeks, when the Chinese "cheque" arrives.....I notice that ENI have significantly raised their stake in Cabinda North, so some small progress seems to be being made in Africa. But it'll be interesting to know if VN has moved on....

[onjohn] 01/11/2016 06:57

oil tanking

[emptyend] 27/10/2016 15:07

No - but I wouldn't be surprised. November is a good month to get things done, given the capex planning and budget cycle for both PV and SIA.

[kenobi] 27/10/2016 09:46

I've not been around these parts for some time, but from the agm I seem to recall ES saying that he thought that the FDP would be signed around now because the board were due to be at a meeting in vietnam and that would be a convenient time, not sure I recall the exact date he guessed, and meetings can move anyway, has anyone heard anything on this ?