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[gazza] 27/1/2021 07:35

Inan,Parabolic? Surely that should be exponential.

[wanderer1210_0] 27/1/2021 07:31

If a bio developed a contraceptive vaccine and people were told that you still could get pregnant and that they still would have to wear a condom, would you have the vaccine?

[inanaco] 27/1/2021 07:21

The press are making a lot of noise about the 100,000

but very little noise about why .........


Dr Fauci tacitly admitted that he was too quick last week to play down the virulence of the UK variant, already detected in 22 US states and expected to be the dominant strain across the country by March. It is not only more contagious, it is also more deadly – or “more likely to make you seriously ill”, as he put it euphemistically. We may have better treatments from antivirals and steroids, but the virus itself is staying a step ahead.

Official data in France suggests that just 1.3pc of cases are the UK variant. But France has a weak surveillance system and has done less genomic sequencing than Wales. It does not have an accurate picture of what mutations are circulating. Private labs say the true figure surpassed 12pc last week and is likely to go parabolic unless contained by drastic action immediately.

[inanaco] 27/1/2021 07:15

How is Thailand doing Tf....

starting to loose control ?

[inanaco] 26/1/2021 22:46

Travel in Panama
Panama is currently under a state of emergency, and a curfew is in place.

The local government may impose sanitary cordons around provinces with limited notice.

Domestic flights are operating.

Nationwide measures
From 14 January, there is a nationwide daily mandated curfew from 9pm until 4am. Stricter provincial measures may also apply. Subject to provincial measures, leaving your home/accommodation is permitted between the hours of 4am and 9pm, unless you have any symptoms of COVID-19, or have otherwise been ordered to quarantine by the Panamanian authorities.

If you are arriving internationally during the hours covered by the curfew, you are allowed to travel to your accommodation if you can provide proof of your arrangements or flight details (boarding pass, flight itinerary and/or other forms of proof) to the requesting authorities. ‘Salvoconductos’ (travel permits) are only necessary for those undertaking essential activities that require movement during curfew hours.

Access to, and the use of, parks, stadiums, gyms, beaches, rivers, and the Cinta Costera y Calzada de Amador are prohibited during national or provincial curfew and lockdown hours, and may be restricted more widely at the discretion of the local authorities.

UK GOV

official policy

[panama7] 26/1/2021 20:33

Gecko, one of the points of the vaccines is the health passport, from a health point of view they add nothing apart from adverse risks in the short, medium and long term. Why would you need a vaccine for a virus that has an over 99% survival rate.

[moljen] 26/1/2021 17:51

Pb - yes, LL over on LSE put details up in a post yesterday evening. Free to watch as well.

[plasybryn] 26/1/2021 17:46

I'm I right that Scancell have a webinar on Thursday CD4 & T Cell responses?

[dominiccummings] 26/1/2021 17:03

Nor can New Zealand....... we will see how that works longer term.

[geckotheglorious] 26/1/2021 16:57

What's best for humanity is a tough one.

Personally most of people below age of 50 suffer mild symptoms/recover.
Long term Sequeli though are not appreciated but for most it fairly run of the mill.

For those over 60/65 it is a different matter.The risks are real, and become even more so every 10 years above 60. 15% mortality rate for 80+ isnt it?


I'd have quarantined the over 60's + vulnerable. Left everyone else to carry on as normal and advised serious Vit D3/C intakes


Put severe restrictions of sale of junk food - fatties and their associated vulnerabilities (eg Heart disease, diabetes) most at risk so diet changes important.

I'd have shut flights in Jan/Feb 2020 from China, Italy, Europe..

I do question the point of these vaccines if , After TWO DOSES, we still need to wear masks, maintain distance, wash hands etc etc.

because at some point we do have to get back to normal, and that involves close contact for many,every day...

So if the vaccines dont sort that conundrum,what is the point because we cannot continue living in isolation for the rest of time.....

[panama7] 26/1/2021 16:42

Gecko, no it covers a wide range of subjects from a Doctor/Lawyer who actually does care about Patients and saving lives and doing what is best for humanity.

[geckotheglorious] 26/1/2021 16:05

Panama,

There weren't treatments last year.

These treatments aren't getting out to everyone fast enough

There are new variants that these treatments/vaccines might not cover.

Etc etc etc.

I agree it isn't the end of the world, but it is far worse than the flu.
The flu doesn't destroy your heart, brain,lungs, cause fatal blood clots for example.

But the Lockdowns/partial quarantines will cause more emergencies than Covid.

You are blase at your own risk.

An hour long video.

Precis please.

Is it a pro Ivermectin video? Or HCG, or interferon? Or Dexamathasone?

[geckotheglorious] 26/1/2021 15:33

Never said you did!! :)

But you do question the severity though.

"Gecko, that's because it was never about a virus. It is not an emergency"

Disagree with that.

[panama7] 26/1/2021 15:27

Gecko, I have never denied there is a virus, Check out www,aflds.com

[geckotheglorious] 26/1/2021 15:11

Panama
Post 36251
Disagree to some extent. The virus is a credible threat but the responses have merely sped up the inevitable economic implosion.

The world is overly indebted. A recession was coming before the virus hit hence the QE prior to the real virus related splurge.

You cannot solve a debt crisis(2007-2008) by taking on even more debt!
Which is precisely what they have tried to do.

[panama7] 26/1/2021 13:15

Gecko, that's because it was never about a virus. It is not an emergency there is going to be massive push back this year across the World. More and more people are waking up.

[geckotheglorious] 26/1/2021 13:03

Panam

Food for thought.

"Corbella: Emergency expert says we should quarantine care homes and open society"

Governments took every emergency pandemic plan they'd ever written and threw them out the window when COVID arrived." — Emergency management expert David Redman.

[panama7] 26/1/2021 12:43

Goy, no need for lockdowns check out the report in my previous post.

[goyathlay] 26/1/2021 12:35

panama,

your point about executive dictatorship is a fair concern.

Many of these regulations have been brought in by authority of the parent act which means that they necessarily have less scrutiny than an act of parliament. Regulations/statutory instruments are an established procedure to flesh out the detail and are subject to lower levels of scrutiny.

But I would reply that:
1) The situation has been fluid and fast-moving, thus these matters are an emergency: an exhaustive and protracted parliamentary procedure would be reckless in the circumstances; and
2) there is no suggestion that the Executive, in introducing the lockdown measures, has circumvented the actual will of Parliament because, if anything, Her Majesty's opposition has been pushing for earlier and more Draconian measures.

[panama7] 26/1/2021 12:20

I suggest you all take a long hard look at this report and particularly the end column
hxxps://c19ivermectin.com/

[miavoce] 26/1/2021 11:56

Interesting retweet from Scancell yesterday:-

[panama7] 26/1/2021 11:35

Goy, TF, Bermuda, suggest you check out the stories in Gibraltar since they started vaccinating. Let's see you all put a spin on it.