S4 Capital Share Discussion Threads

[halfpenny] 10/5/2024 08:12

Looks like Now is the time to Add much more at these great levels...

Remember also a chance of a Takeover at these levels.

Key points for a great future.

1. Revenue Targets on Track
2. Significant New Business Activities
3. Net Debt Falling. (Our net debt is expected to fall in 2024 reflecting positive free cash flow.)
4. AI Strong positioning makes headway


Get on the Train to make a Gain...

[halfpenny] 10/5/2024 08:12

How is the WALLY DOING!!! WOT A FOOL!!!
Once a Wally Always a Wally!!!
Shorter's will head for them Hills..Just like a Wally!!

[halfpenny] 10/5/2024 08:00

Looks like Now is the time to Add much more at these great levels...

Remember a chance of a Takeover at these levels.

Key points for a great future.

1. Revenue Targets on Track
2. Significant New Business Activities
3. Net Debt Falling. (Our net debt is expected to fall in 2024 reflecting positive free cash flow.)
4. AI Strong positioning makes headway


Get on the Train to make a Gain...

[halfpenny] 10/5/2024 07:48

Pure Facts with a great future.
Shorter's will head for them Hills..

The conference call at 9am will be a winner.

Remember a chance of a Takeover at these levels.

Key points for a great future.

1. Revenue Targets on Track
2. Significant New Business Activities
3. Net Debt Falling. (Our net debt is expected to fall in 2024 reflecting positive free cash flow.)
4. AI Strong positioning makes headway

Analysts will Continue to add more as now the foundation and future getting Stronger.

Brighter Days Ahead...

[wallywoo] 10/5/2024 07:47

Those are not facts. They are S4'S outlook expectations. Which have been wrong for 3 years. Facts are business down 14.9%. Rate of decline accelerating. Debt up £26m.Share price will test lows.

[halfpenny] 10/5/2024 07:44

FACTS ARE....

Key points for a great future.

1. Revenue Targets on Track
2. Significant New Business Activities
3. Net Debt Falling
4. AI Strong positioning makes headway

Analysts will Continue to add more as now the foundation and future getting Stronger.

Brighter Days Ahead...

[halfpenny] 10/5/2024 07:43

Still a Wally with no clue!!!

[wallywoo] 10/5/2024 07:38

Halfpenny, in Qtr1 2023, S4 said their revenue would be 15% higher in 2023. It actually finished 5% lower.


You can't believe anything that SMS says about the outlook. He has got it wrong for 3 years now. The rate of decline in business is accelerating. Customers are leaving S4.

[molatovkid] 10/5/2024 07:37

I don't think the news that SFOR is facing tough trading surprises anyone. That is why the price is where it is. These things are temporary and the business will recover.

[halfpenny] 10/5/2024 07:37

The conference call at 9am will be a winner.

Remember a chance of a Takeover at these levels.

[halfpenny] 10/5/2024 07:34

Key points for a great future.

1. Revenue Targets on Track
2. Significant New Business Activities
3. Net Debt Falling
4. AI Strong positioning makes headway

Analysts will Continue to add more as now the foundation and future getting Stronger.

Brighter Days Ahead...

[scepticalinvestor] 10/5/2024 07:34

Nothing positive from that announcement. Is SMS intentionally pushing to decimate the share price?

[halfpenny] 10/5/2024 07:33

Once a Wally always a Wally!!!

[wallywoo] 10/5/2024 07:31

You guys are living in cloud cookoo land. Business is down 14.9%. Debt up £26m. Rate of decline is accelerating. This will test the lows.

[halfpenny] 10/5/2024 07:30

Key points for a great future.

1. Revenue Targets on Track
2. Significant New Business Activities
3. Net Debt Falling
4. AI Strong positioning makes headway

Analysts will Continue to add more as now the foundation and future getting Stronger.

Brighter Days Ahead...

[hades1] 10/5/2024 07:29

Very much in line.
Depends on what mr market was expecting.
Could go either way?

[hades1] 10/5/2024 07:29

Very much in line.
Depends on what mr market was expecting?
Could go either way?
My issue is the macro really isn’t that bad in the US.

[halfpenny] 10/5/2024 07:20

Great results meeting Analysts Q1 expectations and Future Getting Brighter...

Outlook
We maintain our targets for the year.

Our targeted range for the year end remains £150 million to £190 million.

Our net debt is expected to fall in 2024 reflecting positive free cash flow and significantly lower combination payments.

New business activity continues at significant levels, particularly with a focus on personalisation at scale. New business wins in the first quarter include Burger King, Panasonic, FanDuel, AliExpress, Decathlon, Santander and ICBC.

In addition, the Company continues to capitalise on its strong AI positioning

Happy Days Ahead....

[molatovkid] 10/5/2024 07:19

On the upside got some major new clients on board.

[wallywoo] 10/5/2024 07:17

Oh dear, another terrible set of figures.


Revenue down 14.9%, debt up another £26m to £206m. Revenue was down 5% last year, so the rate this business is shrinking is accelerating.


That's 4 quarters of losing Revenue. At a time of high inflation (so the real loss of revenue is 6%+ higher to reflect inflation).


It's time to realise that S4 are no longer competing well in their marketplace. Customers are leaving and going elsewhere.


Shares will drop quickly this morning.

[tongosti] 09/5/2024 18:19

95% down and he finally got it. Wow

[wallywoo] 09/5/2024 15:25

Growth? Where is that then? The last time S4 achieved any quarter growth was in Qtr1 2023. So they have had 3 quarters of negative growth since then.


Everyone expects tomorrow will bring another quarter of negative growth. Terrible momentum!


I really doubt they will mention buybacks or dividend. They said that operating ebitda would be around the same as last year (10.7%). They pay around that percentage for debt interest. That earnings expectation compares poorly to 20-40% of WPP and the other major's. I expect net debt will be around £200m. I really doubt they can afford buybacks or dividends. It will be hard enough to bring down debt as it is!! Why hold the most inefficient company in the sector, when you can buy any of the others.


Shareholders need to brace for a bumpy day Tomorrow!!! Dodgy company built on shaky foundations, could easily come crashing down.

[auson1] 09/5/2024 11:58

hades1,

That was the plan, he had gone super-focused on a pure digital and Tech play, to grow as fast as possible, £50m to £1bn is quite some growth and lets not forget WPP wanted to buy Media Monks.

That said I think they are trying to diversify revenue with some more Financial, FMCG, Motor etc

[hades1] 09/5/2024 11:38

Yes should be over the worst but we need change the balance of the business away from Tech. Media Monks clearly is the best team which is why everyone wants the business but S4Cap now has the wrong client profile in the current market - Will tech clients ever return to the previous marketing spend levels? Many doubt it.
SMS must know this widely held concern so hopefully it’s just a question of time?
Sell up or adapt the business with new categories?
Lots of business currently being pitched for across the industry.

[nige co] 09/5/2024 10:54

What's likely IMO is revenue will be down on Q1 2023, & Net Debt likely to have increasing after paying £11.4m in regards to final combination payments carried over from 2023.

The good news will probably be that Q1 likely to be the worst quarter of 2024. & Net Debt will have peaked with past M&A paid up with an indication of a share buyback commencing in the second half of 2024.