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SFOR S4 Capital Plc

0.15 (0.26%)
Last Updated: 15:06:33
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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
S4 Capital Plc LSE:SFOR London Ordinary Share GB00BFZZM640 ORD 25P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.15 0.26% 58.50 994,710 15:06:33
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
58.50 59.10 60.00 57.00 57.00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Offices-holdng Companies,nec 1.01B -6M -0.0103 -56.80 340.42M
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
15:12:32 O 7,500 58.871 GBX

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22/7/202221:51EBITDA for 2018 18

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Posted at 20/5/2024 09:20 by S4 Capital Daily Update
S4 Capital Plc is listed in the Offices-holdng Companies,nec sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker SFOR. The last closing price for S4 Capital was 58.35p.
S4 Capital currently has 581,906,601 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of S4 Capital is £340,415,362.
S4 Capital has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of -56.80.
This morning SFOR shares opened at 57p
Posted at 17/5/2024 17:32 by wallywoo
bc4; known ramper handle only posts on distressed stocks BBs. Pfc a favourite. And here of course.

Three3; a brand new poster, only 2 posts ever, both on here.

Come on boys, you must try harder to discredit the cynic's!!! Please any BB readers take note. These guys are serious conmen. Along with long term handles of Nige, tongosti and Auson. Be very careful here;

1) losing business every quarter. 14% down last quarter.

2) debt £26m higher in the last quarter. £206m is too high (1 year ago net debt was £135m, and net £45m 1 year before). If this does not come down quickly S4 is sunk.

3) over 600m shares (up from 255m on listing). This company issue shares like sweets. The more shares in issue, the more likely that the share price will tank.

This business is hemorrhaging money/cash. Be very careful. It is only a extremely strong market that is keeping this up. Any downturn and sfor will sink.
Posted at 15/5/2024 17:07 by nige co
Wally, regarding Watches Of Switzerland Group, you mentioned all the positives but failed to mention the negatives. I've previously researched WOSG and I was impressed as you clearly are with the positives. However, I feel that its my duty to warn other board members, to point out the potential negatives that you failed to mention.

What put me off investing in WOSG is the following that you failed to mention. In January WOSG came out with a profits warning, the share price plummeted 37% on the day, and continued to drop a further 13% to date.

About 50% of WOSG revenue comes from selling Rolex watches being an official retailer for this great brand. Rolex made a game changing acquisition in the Summer of 2023 in retailer Bucherer. The big unknown is will Rolex decide it no longer needs WOSG to sell its expensive watches, or indeed limit the amount it currently supplies to WOSG. There is a good reason why the share price is down 77% from its highs. It may work out for WOSG, but at least tell the full story, warts and all. This is a prime example of why its always best to do your own research, and not take tips of Wally's on a chat board. Be careful out there listening to rampers.
Posted at 15/5/2024 09:10 by nige co
De ramper Wally still banging his same drum, had he done even the basic research he would have known that all past M&A cash payments are now all behind S4, paid up in Q1 of this year, with a few million more shares to be issued over the next couple of years, part of the 50% cash & 50% S4 shares. No shocks here, at least not to us who do our own research. Remember all these new shares that are currently being issued are issued at much higher share prices, mostly at 400p a fraction of today's share price. You have to hand it to Sorrell by agreeing to part cash, part shares issued at 400p was a master stroke. S4 Capital Net Asset Value 150p. Today's share price 53p.

Or maybe Wally already knew all the above, maybe he's just attempting to deceive potential new S4 Capital shareholder from buying S4 shares. My advice to any new board member is do your own research, don't listen to anyone on these discussion boards, the likes of Wally has an ulterior motive, he certainly doesn't have anyone's best interests at heart. You have been warned.
Posted at 10/5/2024 11:50 by nige co
Tongosti, I have to be honest after looking at the Q1 results, I was disappointed they are poor results to say the least. We've witnessed the share price drop 20% on better results previously. The market reaction is unpredictable. With expected improving results going forward the market is now starting to look beyond these results IMO.

You may well be right, the bottom is in regarding the share price, tried to go down this morning at start down 9%, strong buying sent it up 20%. A 29% swing, wow.

I also think that S4 Capital are cheap in comparison to peers. Taking a longer term view 2025 & 2026, I think that S4 Capital will be well placed to recover, will it get that chance? After watching the company's results presentation I'm half expecting P/E making a move on S4 Capital. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Have a good weekend mate.

P.S. expect Wally to make an appearance if the share price pulls back a few pence, I can read him like a book.
Posted at 02/5/2024 12:49 by auson1

I don't think wally can.

On 15th April wally says he went short at 58p he first mentions this on 24th after shareprice has fallen from 60p to 51p. No posts on 15th he posts on several times on 16th 17th 4 times on the 18th 22nd 23rd all with no mention of 58p short but mentioned closing his other made up short at 38p ! He even talks about this recovering and not worth the risk for a amall punt. see below

'wallywoo - 16 Apr 2024 - 12:37:11 - 10400 of 10533 SFOR - SFOR
Lol, the ramping on this BB is ridiculous. Huge ye ha we are going to the moon on the way up. Shocked quiet on the way down.

This will recover in the medium term. But it won't be quick. Massive amounts of debt, and a poor business outlook will make recovery look like paint drying.

and this

'wallywoo - 16 Apr 2024 - 19:33:33 - 10415 of 10533 SFOR - SFOR
wallywoo - 22 Jan 2024 - 15:29:15 - 9135 of 10415
Decided to close my short at 38p.

This may fall further, but has been a great investment. Some good value elsewhere. Stuck money into glencore at 400.

Was disappointed there was no refinancing needed here. Yet'

The 17th this

wallywoo - 17 Apr 2024 - 13:45:24 - 10424 of 10533 SFOR - SFOR
Lol auson,

You are not really comparing a huge gambling distressed share with few assets and £200m of debt with a £60bn valued commodity giant with £80bn commodity based net assets and a 8% dividend. Are you?

My investment there is up nearly 20% in 3 months with a 4% dividend coming and another in August. Although it is a 6 figure sum, I can cash it in easily.

This investment is barely surviving. Not worth the risk currently imho. Even for a small punt. Could easily turn down rapidly.'
Posted at 24/4/2024 09:07 by auson1
'wallywoo - 04 May 2022 - 10:36:33 - 170 of 353 SFOR 2022 - SFOR
Certainly a large amount of fear in the share price. Despite that have bgt in today at 298 for the first time.

Sometimes you have to way up any potential bad news in the price. This comes out as a good risk reward, imo.

It was only 20 months ago that SFOR easily raised £116m at 315p per share. There's been spectacular growth since then.

Good punt ahead of the results, whenever they maybe!!'
Posted at 18/4/2024 13:42 by wallywoo
In July 23, the share price moved from 105 to 155 in 3 weeks. The move today looks extremely like that one.

Tell us tongosti, what happened to the share price then? And why the rise today is different to that one? In my experience shares tend to repeat patterns!!
Posted at 17/4/2024 17:04 by nige co
Wally & the other tosspot NY Boy went missing for 2 weeks while the S4 share price went up 65%, share price drops back a little and surprise surprise Wally makes an appearance with 9 comments within 2 days, in a stock he apparently has no financial interest in. De ramping trolls are so predictable. Good luck waiting for 20p target price. The S4 train has left the station.
Posted at 09/4/2024 14:37 by tongosti
you're welcome and good to hear you're finding it all useful. In general terms, I use price to sales as a (very) rough guide but only for reference purposes and never as a trading tool. With that in mind, a p/s=1 would imply a share price of about 180p. In turn that would equate to almost +350% from my entry price.

During S4's previous bubble p/s=4, mind you!

Like you say, no one has a crystal ball so the above is just fantasy, at the moment.

Having said all that, I never hold a position simply because p/s tells me this maybe cheap (that's the fast road to the poorhouse as we have seen with too many on here all the way down from 850). Cheap can always get cheaper (and so do fundamentals along the way).

The tragedy of fundamental-driven investing is that most have completely run out of cash when share price is at it's cheapest. Now for example is the time to go all in on S4 but unfortunately most are simply hoping for the share price to breakeven to their much higher entry levels. As for profit, that's wishful thinking at the moment.

In other words, I stay with my position for as long as my trailing stop (rising in lockstep with the trend) is not violated AND the trend is well behaved. If so, then P/S metric simply gives me an idea on how much gas maybe still left in the tank but that's it. It is simply an idea that will have to be proved or disproved by market action. If Mr Market decides otherwise, I eat humble pie and oblige.

Been doing this for 20+years and have learned the (very) hard way to stay with the position for as long as the trend it up and never switch to fundamental second guessing if the share price steps off the uptrend.

Good luck.
Posted at 02/4/2024 09:54 by nige co
Paid de-ramper Wally was nowhere to be seen last Thursday when share price was up 26.75%. I did predict that he will return when the share price drops. So predictable, what a troll.
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