Redt Energy Share Discussion Threads

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 23:32

the red lettering above does say transportation does it not????

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 23:31

Another slide from the Clean Tuesday Presentation done by John Ward, note where it says "Refueling ip"

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 23:27

saying their main priority was to get storage up and running, but should some car company from Japan come knocking on the door, who knows.....

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 23:25

You need to go back through the RNS,s of Camco about 18 months to 2 years ago Scott Mcgregor referenced going back to the development of RE-fuel..

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 23:10

Sir John first started in the development of zinc bromine flow battery,s then saw the potential in vanadium.... Re-fuel technology was then set up...and when they need cash John ward stepped up....that is how he became the largest share holder.

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 23:00

REDT has connections even they dont realise they have, all around the world is a network of people that have worked for Camco and the directors have a whole wealth of contacts......they just need to capitalise on those connections.....

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 22:58

the Enfield thunderbolt is now the fastest street legal car still powered by battery,s

“I hereby plan to resurrect a long-forgotten British electric relic and drag (race) it into the 21st century using modern day leccy technology.

Why? Because we want the Flux Capacitor to be Europe’s fastest street legal EV. It was never going to be the prettiest…”

As quick as an £800,000 Porsche 918 Spyder.
23rd August 2016

0-121mph in 9.86 seconds
23rd August 2016

ABOUT JONNY SMITH
I started as an automotive journalist in the ’90s – around the time when emails were born. First cutting my teeth on a classic and custom Volkswagen magazine, I then progressed into mainstream car titles as the years progressed.

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 22:53

40 years ago there were 100 cars in production that would become the first electric car, built on the Isle of Wight, the Enfield Thunderbolt was the UK's motoring future and gave a design that was years ahead of its time, making an impression all over the world.

so REDT is well connected in the automotive industry Sir John Samuel

Sir John Samuels has had a big part in REDT progression think it is more of a passion with them a bit like John Ward

- Flow batteries for overcoming constraints in connecting renewable generation
Sir John Samuel REDT Ltd
- Address by Amber Rudd MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at DECC

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 22:53

40 years ago there were 100 cars in production that would become the first electric car, built on the Isle of Wight, the Enfield Thunderbolt was the UK's motoring future and gave a design that was years ahead of its time, making an impression all over the world.

so REDT is well connected in the automotive industry Sir John Samuel

Sir John Samuels has had a big part in REDT progression think it is more of a passion with them a bit like John Ward

- Flow batteries for overcoming constraints in connecting renewable generation
Sir John Samuel REDT Ltd
- Address by Amber Rudd MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at DECC

[pierre oreilly] 31/10/2017 22:43

Well red themselves say they have been working exclusively on large systems for at least the last 10 years. Whatever was going on more than ten years ago is completely irrelevant.


Therefore in the last 10 years we have become solely focused on providing storage for utilities, large renewables and off-grid customers.”

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 22:42

"We took a truck across America with two Enfields on the back," says Sir John Samuel, who was leading the delegation. "Some people just looked at them and laughed, but Ronnie Reagan was astounded, and he said, 'Why can't we do this here?'"


Governor Reagan offered to find a factory site in California, promising healthy subsidies and guaranteed orders. He even suggested giving the cars to all home-buyers on the island of Santa Catalina off the California coast, where the use of petrol-driven vehicles was - and still is - heavily restricted.

But Enfield Automotive's owner John Goulandris, who was from a wealthy Greek shipping family, turned down Reagan's offer and chose to continue production in Cowes on the Isle of Wight.

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 22:40

one of the last pictures in the header is from a presentation John Ward did called "Clean Tuesday" it is a stand alone re-fueling electric station, hence the name of Re-Fuel Technology......

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 22:37

Pierre Oreilly you have not been reading the drivel I post or my cut and paste .....perhaps you should pay more attention......

REDT started out as Re-fuel technology development google it...

this must be the 100th time I have posted this and you have missed it, shows I should post more often..why do you think Sir John Samuel was involved??? he made one of the first electric cars the Enfield Thunderbolt google that also


Sir John Samuel and Roger Anderson founded RE-fuel Technology in 2000 to develop a Redox Flow Battery in research partnership with the University of New South Wales in Sydney. RE-fuel operations were then set up in Wokingham with backing from Dr Jeff Kenna at Camco Clean Energy (formerly ESD) and support from the UK Government’s Department of Trade and Industry (now DBIS). In 2001 the team was then joined by Peter Ridley who developed the first 5kW battery. The initial technology was intended to provide rapid refuelling for electrical vehicles. However the pressing need to store energy in the power sector has led the company to focus on this market first.

[dogrunner11] 31/10/2017 22:34

There’s been much research from redT in this area, I’ll find it another time. Scott even mentioned that they might come back to it at a later stage, however they are concentrating on stationary storage as it’s a larger market place.

I had much talk with Trout on this subject, it’s not a forgotten area dispite what some will have you believe.

[pierre oreilly] 31/10/2017 22:26

Have you got any links to red working on car batteries for evs dig? That sounds absurd to me.

Look at ceres if you want car fuel cell exposure.

redt are windfarm/grid scale storage from everything i've read.

[dogrunner11] 31/10/2017 22:13

Home battery market? Says in the presentations that flow battery is suited for applications 10kWh and above... VSun entering home market, have Vanadium and want manufacture in Aus, so do we according Scott.

Rent that electrolyte, reduce cost on casings, wonder how competitive we would be?

Or as you suggest, are they looking at that car, commercial vehicle route, Scott said they’d come back to it.

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 22:04

could they have brought the dust sheet off the car battery project dog???

[dogrunner11] 31/10/2017 22:02

The role will include manual assembly of small (a few cm) to large (up to 1m) electrochemical cells using multiple parts including sealing components, where scrupulous attention to cleanliness is required.

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 21:55

so while owenski drivels on about irrelevant posts, I think car and storage are relevant to REDT...

Do a little reading owenski....

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 21:50

For example, Nanoflowcell has been exhibiting a sports car it says will use their flow batteries. Pure electric cars using the 48V batteries are said to have a range of 1,000 miles.

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 21:48

here is a wee taste...

One wild card is the flow battery. Most people rightly see these as very large units suitable for storage at electric utilities. One or two organizations are thinking about putting them in cars because they are headed for $100 per kWh and their size and weight might just fit the bill in due course. Toyota’s advanced research people told us recently that they would not dismiss the possibility.

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 21:43

'but seeing as lithium can not fill the space that flow machines can, they are not really competition.....but should some clever car manufacturer, lets say like Toyota decides to go down the flow battery avenue instead of lithium, Tesla is toast!!!

watch this space....or do a little reading...

[dogrunner11] 31/10/2017 21:40

These guys are targeting 185MW by end of 2018....

Anesco is investigating how it could adopt flow batteries into future projects instead of lithium as a response to growing uncertainty around the future of storage de-rating in the capacity market, Clean Energy News can reveal.

The Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) published a consultation in July outlining proposals to alter the current de-rating status of storage assets participating in the market to reflect discharge periods achievable by the batteries.

[dlg3] 31/10/2017 21:37

Tesla just borrowed $1.8 billion and will need more by June 2018, if REDT reach $1.8 billion let alone borrow that, most investors will not give a toss about margins..