Provident Financial Share Chat (PFG)

Share Name	Share Symbol	Market	Type	Share ISIN	Share Description
Provident Financial Group	LSE:PFG	London	Ordinary Share	GB00B1Z4ST84	ORD 20 8/11P

	Price Change	% Change	Share Price	Bid Price	Offer Price	High Price	Low Price	Open Price	Shares Traded	Last Trade
	-38.00p	-2.05%	1,814.00p	1,813.00p	1,815.00p	1,849.00p	1,813.00p	1,836.00p	91,992	09:15:29

Industry Sector	Turnover (m)	Profit (m)	EPS - Basic	PE Ratio	Market Cap (m)
Nonequity Investment Instruments	1,183.2	343.9	181.8	10.0	2,680.67

Provident Financial Share Discussion Threads

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20/8/2017 09:13	If there is a further profit warning and dividend cut the CEO will fall on his sword, this could be a positive depending on who takes over, wllm	wllmherk	Read Full Thread Reply
20/8/2017 08:09	Sunday Times – hedgies expect further profit warning & dividend cut: hxxps://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/business/hedge-funds-stalk-doorstep-lender-vvhq7sw2m	dendria	Read Full Thread Reply
18/8/2017 22:23	The share price is trying its best to make my ill timed sale at 2150 ( 2 years ago) - look like a smart move.... he who waits Rodney .....	fenners66	Read Full Thread Reply
18/8/2017 19:50	Well I bought back in again at £18.47, but will operate a stop quickly if it starts falling Monday.	stewart64	Read Full Thread Reply
18/8/2017 17:10	You will have to wait until February for those ; a lot could happen to the share price before then. We all tend to be guilty of confirmation bias and I, like many PIs, have a habit of failing to sell a falling stock. The pros are better at that , especially when they can make a commission! This has come down almost half in the last 2 yrs . It doesn't mean it cannot go further of course , but the fundamentals look very different. Had my fingers burned badly by the continuing poor performance of IPF (It's former sister) so will be aghast if this declines much further.	wad collector	Read Full Thread Reply
18/8/2017 14:49	The yield looks nice - but will dividend be sustained. I would like to see the full year results first	fenners66	Read Full Thread Reply
18/8/2017 12:24	The Dark Horse - "accept that holders tend to wear rose tinted specs ;)" Yes, that is always a possibility, don't know which way I'll go but agree it's not looking good right now.	losos	Read Full Thread Reply
17/8/2017 17:26	Locos - I respect your opinion and you may be right but ask yourself whether you would be a long term buyer right now and if you aren't adding then accept that holders tend to wear rose tinted specs ;) Me I see continuing issues with the loan book and the dividend gives me little comfort as once a Ftse type company starts offering over 7% you can almost smell the future cut to "preserve......" Little apology for being a cynic but moving from personal touch to call centre style doesn't give e confidence that loan payments will be made and the people who know this industry say that once a loan has missed 5 payments it won't rectify itself. A short term bounce in the share price won't change my view which is that 6-12 months from now could see this is serious trouble	the dark horse	Read Full Thread Reply
17/8/2017 16:39	saw wad kicking about and decided to join the party. I remember holding these a few years back wad at around half the price they are today, to say I sold too quick would be an understatement :) wllm	wllmherk	Read Full Thread Reply
17/8/2017 16:27	another set back, needs to hold the low earlier this week	ny boy	Read Full Thread Reply
16/8/2017 13:19	Looks like you found the nadir yesterday, though sometimes it is good to be decisive. I am also in the red here but like I have prev posted , my F-I-L has held these so long that his annual dividend is now much higher than his buying price. Holding and hoping...	wad collector	Read Full Thread Reply
16/8/2017 12:42	Losos I swapped it for IMB which is down significantly. I decided that the chances of IMB increasing their dividends was higher and is less dependent on the EU fiasco. I already have IMB and understand the industry quite abit - and more than here - so I guess it is a reasonable switch.	minerve	Read Full Thread Reply
16/8/2017 12:39	When you think about the agent or employee relationship there can only be one way for the company to win by changing - compliance. The agent , as not an employee had to earn commission I assume - so the loans had to work , the employee gets a salary and has to be micromanaged - more managers more cost. Employee - does he care about profitability? Or his pay cheque? However he can ensure products are not oversold..... Just looks less cut-throat and less profitable....	fenners66	Read Full Thread Reply
16/8/2017 12:32	The Dark Horse - "They'd know if one of theirs was struggling/had another mouth to feed/gambling etc." They might know, but frankly as a commission agent I doubt they would do much about it. In the old model agents knocked on the door, took the weekly payment, (or as much as the debtor could pay) and were on to the next address on their list. I thought the whole idea of having salaried staff knocking on the door was that they didn't have to rush off to the next 'customer' that they could spend time talking to the debtor and maybe even giving some financial help. I use the word 'help' rather than 'advice' because as we all know giving financial advice if you are not a qualified FA is a most heinous crime punishable by death haha. Will it work ??? Well who knows, what worries me is that once again the nanny state has intervened (albeit quietly) and pushed the loan companies to change their MO in the simplistic view that they know best and the poor have to prevented from taking on debt. Like Minerve I am underwater on these, not for the first time I got in only months before the bad news started haha and now concerned but the dividend is good and they would be crazy to cut it right now ('tho that might happen a year or two down the line)	losos	Read Full Thread Reply
16/8/2017 12:13	I've been buying PCF, MCL & SUS. Tempted here but holding off for now - doesn't look like the bottom yet.	dendria	Read Full Thread Reply
16/8/2017 12:10	Better day, so far, a turning point would be good, if so . ..plenty of upside to take back control of!	ny boy	Read Full Thread Reply
16/8/2017 09:20	Temp. Bottom in? Seems way oversold, time will tell but 7% divi	ny boy	Read Full Thread Reply
15/8/2017 14:51	Sold out. £5K loss. Now it can change direction! LOL Buying Imperial Brands .	minerve	Read Full Thread Reply
15/8/2017 14:24	Sell the rallies as this is probably heading for £15 by next results or soon after maybe even lower by year end. This is a bygone business and trying to modernise it takes away the very nature of why it used to be good business - the personal knowledge and connection that the collectors used to have. They'd know if one of theirs was struggling/had another mouth to feed/gambling etc. They were rewarded for knowing and collecting. Staff don't have same feel and salaries don't encourage you to collect or turn down an extension or increase to the loan. This business is relying on its record and the fact that everybody thinks Ftse/3bn mkt cap/div etc but that hasn't saved others and with the worsening consumer lending and economy I think their loan book is going to need a lot more impairment charges. Don't tend to short stocks so I'll just leave it alone but wouldn't be buying this and it wouldn't even surprise me if they pulled the dividend before payment date in October. As you can see I am feeling bearish but this is one of the stocks I keep an eye on just to judge the general state of the world and its gone through levels it shouldn't have and the writing is on the wall. GLA, probably due a short term rlly back above £20 but it'll be heading down again very soon afterwards	the dark horse	Read Full Thread Reply
15/8/2017 13:25	Short term bottom @ 1860p?	ny boy	Read Full Thread Reply
15/8/2017 12:55	I am more likely to sell, even though I know it is most likely oversold. Approaching £5K down now. The BOD have not got full-control or understanding of their own business. This is the real issue for me. The handling of this transition has been very bad. It has been poorly thought out and rushed IMO. For whose benefit? Have they capitulated in negotiations with regulators? Very very unsatisfactory and quite frankly the CEO and others should resign. Simply unnacceptable for a FTSE 100 stock.	minerve	Read Full Thread Reply
15/8/2017 12:37	Decided to add at 1886. Bit of a worry as to what is hiding here , but am viewing as a bargain buy . Hope I don't regret but viewing this as a trade. Hope the number of this post is not significant.....	wad collector	Read Full Thread Reply
15/8/2017 12:22	Yes, roll the dice FFS!	minerve	Read Full Thread Reply

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