Powerhouse Energy Share Discussion Threads

[vatnabrekk] 28/5/2019 21:52

Thanks blewco. I have put a request on here for LuckeyJim to give further details about his concerns about the kiln, and I hope to get a response soon.

[blewco] 28/5/2019 21:45

I don't know if it is a rotary kiln, but lucky Jim said about movement of materials within the kiln and wether known refractories would withstand this. Cement kilns use rotation as part of their process and use refractories, so any 'problems' can easily be overcome using existing technology which is what PHE have claimed all along. All they are doing is putting know processes together to achieve their aim. So any criticism of the overall process is without foundation.

[lagosboy] 28/5/2019 21:31

I am not looking to save anyone, I am not the Messiah - but I thought BB's. just like down the pub, were forums to express opinions. If all you want are opinions that agree with your own then you might as well go live in the PRC.

[vatnabrekk] 28/5/2019 21:29

blewco: Is it a rotary kiln? Are you sure? What kind of kiln (chamber) does the prototype have at Thornton Park?

[blewco] 28/5/2019 21:26

So if you believe it's a dud, why do you waste your time posting, just move on! And please don't say you post for some altruistic motive to save us from disaster.

[lagosboy] 28/5/2019 21:04

Good , I don't like to be part of the in-crowd.

First blank to be built - quite a Freudian slip, maybe the tealeaves are giving you a steer.

its a dud, always has been and always will be. The big wide world would have picked up on it by now.

[blewco] 28/5/2019 21:02

I think a lot of the criticism and doubt is with the ability of refractory materials to withstand movement such as in a rotary kiln. Yet standard refractory is used in such instances. Ceramic material is used in highly abrasive environments. I would have thought that PHE have done their homework in that respect. Some of the criticism on here is not motivated by doubt about material capabilities, but is plain and simple deramping for whatever motive they may have.

[linesal2] 28/5/2019 18:22

Maybe when you were invested but things have changed and the first is going to be built, Come back next year munching on your humble pie!In the mean time no PI has any interest in anything you post Lagos!

[lagosboy] 28/5/2019 17:49

Intentions are one thing, actions are another - Phe has never been any good at delivering the latter.

Its desperate measures for desperate times as right now the AIM ATM Cash Machine is closed to Phe - why do think KA upped sticks?

[vatnabrekk] 28/5/2019 17:16

LuckeyJim, can you please explain in a bit more detail what it is that you believe will cause the ceramics in the chamber to fail. You state that there are ceramics available that can withstand temperatures in excess of 2000c in a static situation, so what is it that PHE will be asking the system to do that will be "non-static" that may cause the problems you envisage?

[linesal2] 28/5/2019 16:46

Don't you think the global leaders that gave it the thumbs up as feasible for a 24 tpd unit would have needed to look at that before giving their opinion?

[luckey jim] 28/5/2019 15:42

You are absolutley correct, blast furnaces can withstand tempreratures in excess of 2000c, some ceramics can withstand in excess of 5000c, in a static situation, but not in the application needed for gasification. Known materials that have to move within a process at the tempreatures needed, react differently at the tempretatures required for gasification. Blewco as far as I am aware there are no materials yet invented that will fulfil the requirement needed for a commerical gasification operation that PHE claims to have.

[blewco] 28/5/2019 14:23

Blast furnaces are built of materials capable of withstanding 2000C. PHE is employing temperatures between 1200-1700. So materials are available, please research before posting.

[vatnabrekk] 27/5/2019 22:37

I don't suppose David Ryan will have thought of that.

[having tracey] 27/5/2019 21:43

Whats th b etting the lining cracks if they ever get a full size one built 3 years from now.

[vatnabrekk] 27/5/2019 13:11

In case anyone missed it, here's an extract from a statement by David Ryan during an interview with Justin Waite on Vox Markets on 18th April this year:
"We intend to be building and putting equipment on site before the end of the year, and proving the commercial position of the gas at the end of the year or early next year."

[ken chung] 27/5/2019 09:36

Someone posted here the new CEO said it will be another 3 years until a first commercial system is built and even then it will need testing, perhaps modifying and certifying.

That's the system that was already supposed to have been built a couple of years ago by the way. They don't even have finance, or planning and environment permissions.

Lemming and mushroom only now.

[linesal2] 27/5/2019 09:20

Gotta go a lot lower for me to be losing Chung!

[ken chung] 27/5/2019 01:25

So in other words you don't have any credible answers to my concerns but do show all the usual characteristics of lemmings and mushrooms who will continue to lose money.

[vatnabrekk] 26/5/2019 18:27

Good chap!

[linesal2] 26/5/2019 18:22

I have just tweeted Hugh to look at the companies offering solutions and not just focusing on the problems.

[linesal2] 26/5/2019 17:57

PHE can save industry Billions, lets get it proven then watch the units roll out!