Plus500 Share Discussion Threads

[fenners66] 03/12/2018 09:05

So in 2015 he was knocking the bull case put forward by Zack


" I recommend reading the report and hope for Zack’s sake that he no longer holds a position in the company."

Meanwhile if he held -same Zack could have made what 400% ?

[fenners66] 03/12/2018 09:01

Short underwater and then decided to post a link to a 3year old article ....... coincidence ?

[rackerrs1] 03/12/2018 08:17

Like we are enjoying watching your huge losses pig filth?Hahahahahahahahaha

[metis20] 03/12/2018 07:07

No share repurchase RNS this am. None of Friday's 3.3% share price rise was the result of share repurchase...

[gettingrichslow] 03/12/2018 00:11

New Head of Investor Relations at PLUS will be wanting to make an impression and I suspect would be unimpressed by such clear and persistent accusations...plenty to be sued for there already unless he can substantiate it.

[dj trading] 02/12/2018 23:31

El Cap
Presumably you aren't aware of the reason why all of Jacob Ma-Weaver's (Cable Car Capital one man band) PLUS articles have had the following cautionary statement added!

"This content is not directed toward persons with residence or place of business in the United Kingdom."

And why Jacob is unlikely to be visiting the UK!?

[saltraider] 02/12/2018 23:03

As far as I can see, the Cablecar thesis is the full limit and extension of ElC's 'biggie'.

This seems to me to me to be very stale 'news'. If the Cablecar hypothesis had been correct, we would surely know by now ... over three years after the story was pushed out.

I don't think the Cablecar thesis underpins recent shorting (except ElC's, perhaps???).

[nyc25] 02/12/2018 22:19

Guy that wrote that Cablecar thesis lives here in New York. This city full of dudes like him. Name is Jacob Weaver-Ma. 1 man band. Dude has a big imagination. Put it that way.

[noujay] 02/12/2018 21:30

Since it's almost four years old the interested parties ought already to have got their teeth into no? Fascinating stuff about the Swiss franc caper too, well worth a read.If you enjoy dull regurgitation of outdated and what are now proven to be misguided thesis that is.To each his, or her, own.#winning-the-elcapital-way

[dumbbunny] 02/12/2018 15:45

Elcapital2018, the problem with the Cable Car Capital LLC short thesis is didn't stack up three and a half years ago any more than it stacks up now.

The events in May 2015 were in hindsight a blessing for Plus500, as they then went on to strengthen and resource their compliance function, culminating in the appointment of Ms. Penny Judd, who has a lifetimes of experience in compliance and governance, as Chairman.

I've studied some of the short thesis work currently out there and they offer nothing new. The base case many of them work off is that of FXCM. This is a mistake. FXCM was indeed misleading and deceiving their customers - and acting illegally in the US by claiming to operate a 'no dealing desk' model. When in fact they were passing trades to a related third party on a revenue share basis.

Whereas in the UK and Europe internalization of customer trades is a regulated activity and an acceptable basis of risk management. For this reason, such regulatory authorisations are commonly referred to as 'Matched Principle' licenses.

[elcapital2018] 02/12/2018 13:02

I think there is a lot in there that is true. Some of the newbies may not be aware of it, so why not post it. ? There is a reason for the near 11% short. Maybe something in there?

It is not mentioned in there for obvious reason but it is in a way eluded to in one part

[elcapital2018] 02/12/2018 12:49

Plenty more to get your teeth into on here too

[financethoughts] 01/12/2018 14:09

Interestingly, I believe I’ve stumbled over what ElC calls ‘the biggie’. I’ll not say too much yet for a few reasons - first, and most importantly, I want to research it a little further. Second, regardless of whether it is the same as has been teasingly referred to here, he’ll deny it being the same thing, 3rd - assuming it is something with some merit, I’d want to find a way to share all the details I can with you good people on here. My first impression is that it is not particularly new, & does not concern me as a Plus long holder. Also, assuming it’s the same thing, I found this almost by accident in an interview I happened to come across when researching another stock & being offered this as a similar result. More to follow, FT.

[blue meaning] 01/12/2018 12:14

As a FT reader, I mearly pointed to an article regarding Plus that I found interesting some time ago.

Debate the article, debate the current short position if u like - anything to lift the discussion out of the gutter is surely welcome.

[dennislevine] 01/12/2018 11:13

elcap - only quoting back the figures you wrote. Seems you have issues in recalling your own "facts".

Amusing as this was nothing said on this BB impacts the share price so knock yourself out and keep posting about the "rumour" 24/7, 365.

[elcapital2018] 01/12/2018 10:39

I agree. You are a mug punter

[sogoesit] 01/12/2018 10:32

So a "rumour" which cannot be published; maybe some news which has been around for a long time and only known to insiders, is it?

Sounds like inside trading to me and insiders' gains, if they ever come about, will be sued for.
But, then again, I'm a mug punter.