Petrofac Share Discussion Threads

[tahmina1] 29/4/2024 15:09

Here was the post....


JakNife - 24 Apr 2024 - 12:13:33 - 40004 of 40096 Petrofac - PFC
Miena,

"@JakNife & the other thing that I picked up from that RNS was their closing statement:

The discussions with lenders and other stakeholders continue at pace and further announcements will be made as appropriate.

Make of it what you will...

I'm not sure what you think that this means other than what the words plainly say? Negotiating a debt for equity swap at the same time as also negotiating a fresh equity raise at the same time as also negotiating the disposal of non-core assets is not a simple task!


"Shorts are reducing and the share price has for the 3rd day in a row followed the same pattern, which suggests to me that Shorts aren't finished yet...
Why would they reduce if a D4E was inevitable?? Good Risk Management??"

The available borrow for Petrofac has dried up in recent weeks and many shorts have had their positions recalled because the borrow is no longer available. This happens because the longs on the other side of the trade have decided to sell their positions and hence, quite simply, the borrow is no longer there!


"If I was Short I would have never reduced knowing a D4 E was inevitable..."

I would bet that you've never shorted anything? Lot's of retail punters are long only and don't actually understand what they're talking about when it comes to shorting.

At the start of the week the overnight borrow for Petrofac, on the Interactive Broker platform, hit 350%. Are you certain that you'd still keep your short open if you had to pay a 350% borrow charge?

JakNife

[jaknife] 29/4/2024 14:59

tahmina1,

"If IG are charging 350% margin to short , does that mean that if you shorted when the margin was 50% ..."

Where on earth did you get 350% from? It's still at a max of 50%:



[You might need to click on "Product details" to reveal the "margin requirements".]

It's possible (probable even) that they (and SpreadEx) will move it to 100% when the shares are suspended but I've never seen either IG or SpreadEx impose margin of greater than 100%. If they do then it will be 100% for everyone regardless of what the margin was when they opened the position.

JakNife

[tahmina1] 29/4/2024 14:42

Guys forgive my ignorance but i dont short or spread bet....

If IG are charging 350% margin to short , does that mean that if you shorted when the margin was 50% you then have to find the additional margin to hold the position? in which case, any shorter holding over May would have to tie up excess capital on the gamble that the D4E is indeed at a very low price

[kirk 6] 29/4/2024 14:29

Getting bought up for some reason

[stockhunters] 29/4/2024 13:42

price looking weaker

[kirk 6] 29/4/2024 13:41

So shares getting suspended

[armbar] 29/4/2024 13:28

Middle East banks and Adnoc will be all over this imo, plus PEThe intrinsic value to Uae , Middle East and especially Adnoc plus the value to the global transformation to renewables.8bn dcf , 60bn pipeline , TenneT contract , 1st if its kind CCUS, Hydrogen and Wind all built Uae9000 employees and expertise wont be lost BOD not sold , Asfari founder not sold , Azvalor not sold - Takeover ? Bonds repurchased deep discount. GL

[halfpenny] 29/4/2024 13:26

Why would anyone buy at these levels??

[halfpenny] 29/4/2024 13:22

Further falls with a disaster and a mess created by the management.

How Low How Soon.....Target 6p or less

[loglorry1] 29/4/2024 12:29

I think most sensible people agree the equity is worth maybe 4-5p but will trade higher until new stock is issued because of short closing pressure due to recalls and high borrow cost.

However let's talk about what the bonds are worth. They seem to be trading at 20c flat (no accrued now). However bond holders are being asked to put in a further $300m. My bet is that if they don't the bonds are worth zero. If they do then I bet they will command a huge interest rate and the interest charge on the $300m will be similar to the $600m existing sucking most of profits out of PFC post restructuring.

[topazfrenzy] 29/4/2024 12:27

This will crash to 3p when the D4E is announced, that is if they manage to get this D4E which I somehow doubt now since it is also reliant on bank guarantees etc which are unlikely to materialise ..

SO THERE IS A 50% CHANCE I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS GOING TO ZERO

You were warned and you are being warned once again!

STRONG SELL!

[mj19] 29/4/2024 12:25

Is it worth a take over bid?

[bones698] 29/4/2024 12:14

I told you all. Mnay months ago don't go against the shorters, they know something you don't but you get people like the whites and many others thinking they know better. Well those people deserve to lose money, I just hope they didn't suck in other investors and they have lost money too. D4e was on the cards due to the debt and now looks like it's here with shareholders getting wiped out. Probably be left with a couple of percent which means this will head. Alot lower yet and allow the shorters.to close.


I wish people would listen but the problem on these boards is there are far to many who talk rubbish and people are unable to spot them..

Just glad I wasn't invested here. There should be some people who hang their heads in shame never to be seen again and then again there are those to stupid to disappear after they get found out for being clueless

Mkt cap 78m now I doubt there is anything worth that going to be left after d4e and now we see why the shorters didn't close their positions. People ignore the warnings.

I actually think this is totally goosed. Better to go into admin and let companies pick the few good bits out of it rather than endless changes and d4e to oblivion. It's obviously been very poorly run

[jaknife] 29/4/2024 12:00

Investtofly,

"Why not immediately?"

PFC is listed on the main market and, as such, has four months from year-end to publish its final results. "Year-end" for Petrofac is 31 Dec and hence the absolute deadline for PFC to publish its results is before the market opens on Wednesday 1st May.

Given that PFC can't publish its results, at that point PFC will be in breach of listing rules and have to be suspended, However, not until that point in time!

JakNife

[ny boy] 29/4/2024 11:34

Best in industry 🤣🤡🤣

[andymunchkin] 29/4/2024 11:29

AndyH69 25 Nov '05 - 08:41 - 32 of 40075
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Adnoc, Petrofac win Excellence Awards

Nov 24, 2005 - 09:32 -

Abu Dhabi, 24 Nov. 05 (WAM) - The UAE energy sector has dominated the scene at the 5th 'Excellence Energy Award 2005' ceremony, held in Doha last night under the patronage of Abdullah bin Hamad Al Attiyah, Qatar's Second Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Energy and Industry.

The award, known as 'oil Oscars', is organised by the Pipeline magazine.

Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC) won the 'Best in Health and Safety' category, while the Sharjah-based Petrofac was voted the 'Best in Industry Service'.

"Adnoc deserved the award for the commitment shown to provide a safe working environment, using all techniques that help maintain lower rates in incidence of work-related injuries. Petrofac was able to provide integral services in the upstream and midstream customers," said Eileen Michael, Publisher, Reflex Publish Middle East, which produces Pipeline.

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AndyH69 9 Jan '06 - 10:04 - 69 of 40078
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lol - sounds a bit dramatic! here's hoping it's buns!
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[noramping] 29/4/2024 11:20

People were warned over and over again, some still refuse to listen.

[investtofly] 29/4/2024 11:14

Why not immediately?

[fiscal cliff] 29/4/2024 10:49

Negotiated deals only. Interesting couple of days ahead.