Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[bobdown2] 27/4/2017 16:57

Thanks Mike..I think it is the sweetbiotics that will do the most for the share price and it is nice to read that it is being fast tracked!! And I took notes from all the posters who went. The most relevant parts.

[spike_1] 27/4/2017 16:40

Some more random thoughts from Tuesday evening:
More from the actual presentation:
Regarding patents in China. SOH said that he had experience operating with (and in) China and it was a waste of time prosecuting patent infringers as it takes ‘many years’ to get any action, then they simply closed down and opened up under a new name, so 'you then have to start all over again'.

Cholesteryl: expecting partnerships in USA and Asia ‘in the near term’.
As for the 5.1% reduction in blood pressure. Initially that had been an unexpected side benefit, simply because they had chosen to include BP as one of the measured parameters during their studies.

Skin share distribution: expect to have a lock in period of 2 – 3 months. Announcement hopefully ‘within 1 to 4 weeks’.

Sweetbiotics: commercialisation ‘later this year’ , anticipate a number (9?) compounds being tested this summer that should be even sweeter than we have now. But important to get some product out asap regardless as industry will otherwise chose alternative options and will run with those. i.e. sweetbiotics is being brought to market ‘earlier than anticipated’, to capture business.

I asked SOH (1 on 1): you believe OPTI is significantly ahead of the competition, but how can you know what non-public companies are doing behind the scenes. SOH: 'it’s true we don’t know, but we do know what areas they are working in'. (The clear inference being - presumably - that they are not working in competitive areas. I also suggested that if companies come to you enquireing about working with OPTI, you can get a feel for how much microbiome knowledge / skill they already have. He agreed, but on reflection - he was not likely to disagree anyway).

Re: the 86 stores selling SlimBiome (GoFigure), was that a figure looking ahead, or actually as of today? In short he seemed to think that figure was current, but then I asked him who they were and he didn’t appear to know. I suggested Boots and he side-tracked a little by saying big chains want a very large cut of the profit margin (which otherwise is in the region of 70 – 75%) and they take forever to pay, so you have to weigh up the relative merit.

I asked Anna (walbrooks) 1 on 1 just after I arrived, what happened re the second RNS. She started by saying 'it was a glitch in the system', which I then asked her to explain. She started to say – amongst other things – that the RNS (German sales) wasn’t written until Monday. I explained that to the best of my knowledge it was written on Thursday. She then briefly admitted it was actually her fault before then pushing the blame onto others.

I then asked her who spotted the error and when. Apparently SOH alerted them around 8:20. I said I was staggered that no one within the Wallbrooks or the broker monitored the release of all RNS’s their companies were responsible for from shortly after 7 a.m. Needless to say she had no answer. I was not impressed.

OK that’s it from me. I concur with all comments posted by other attenders, so have tried not to be too repetitive.

Best wishes - Mike

[michaelmouse] 27/4/2017 16:30

In truth I couldn't hear him properly. It sounded something like that. ;)

[michaelmouse] 27/4/2017 16:27

Chart's looking a bit sickly. Some might say a little drOPTI?

Anyway, somebody said there are experts on the other thread who know about charts. At least I think that was what he was implying. His exact words were ask the doji fokkers on the other thread?

Cheers.

[cl2201] 27/4/2017 16:25

Frustrating, but I added 10k GBP in the last hour, so I personally can't complain too much :)

[primal123] 27/4/2017 16:22

Yes very frustrating to be back into the 60s, we are undervalued as we have products on the market and revenue is being generated! TW has a lot to blame!

[bobdown2] 27/4/2017 16:13

elrico..this sort of advice does add volatility to long term holders share prices especially when financial instruments are used. And if advice is given on the short side then the problem is even worse. It's strange, those that come out of that web site all seem to use the same sort of words and phrases. Is there a gypsy element there!!

[lukead] 27/4/2017 16:12

yep, current 68.57/69.60, pretty sick, is it not.

well, i am going to save myself some time and this should make at least 2 or 3 happy, i'm signing off until we get to 85p, whenever that will be, if we go lower so be it.

[elrico] 27/4/2017 15:50

Bran - meeting over contract at Real Man Pizza soon. Watch this space :)

Bob - sell 100+. That sort of underlines my view HSR is aimed at short term mentality has over my preferred strategy, long term value growth. Of course there is a case for taking profits off the table. I'm sure if every subscriber followed buy and sell advice at the time they would have made money. Great, that's what subscribers pay for. However, rather than try to second guess exit and reentry prices I took the view I would rather accumulate for the long haul. An investor's view not a trader's view.

[scotty1] 27/4/2017 15:28

Not worried Lukead,only checking,just didn't know whether we were going back over the other thread again or not :))

[lukead] 27/4/2017 15:24

actually scotty, i was not referring to you, so no need to worry, even though you are subscriber, i don't need to name them, they should be obvious to all, when they show up....

[bobdown2] 27/4/2017 15:22

T.w,s previous advice...buy up to 80 pence and sell at a 100 pence. I does look like when we hit 100 pence the selling will not be as bad as what it was a week ago !! And will be even less if we were lucky enough to find out how long term holders are going to be rewarded

[tightfist] 27/4/2017 15:15

Thanks Primal, a very clear re-statement of prospects dosed with common sense; the selling-in process and value chain creation. Patience and a steady hand is required especially when surrounded by hyped-up then disappointed quick-buck investors. I wish there more SOH's around in the investment arena.Thanks again, tightfist

[spike_1] 27/4/2017 15:09

OneDayRodders: very funny!

[rafboy] 27/4/2017 15:08

Thanks for your post Primal. We just need to be patient and it will happen. I certainly trust our management at OPTI to do their best for shareholders.

[belgrano2] 27/4/2017 15:06

Ho Judi, not sure I follow you there, ours is a clear rising wave, and we're in the btm of the cycle now, whereas the one above shows a retrace of about 37% of the highs achieved.
I dont mind the current price at all..certainly on a long term hold (2 years min), and wonderful top up opportunity. I don't expect jam today or tomorrow but if you look at at the sliding scale of income.. its brilliant. albeit still at a modest amount.

[scotty1] 27/4/2017 15:05

Want to name names lukead,just checking ;)

[lukead] 27/4/2017 14:53

I think that there are some SCUMMY people on here, ( not many ), like the 1 line specialist and others who suddenly pop up (sometimes they have just set up their name). These scumbags may emanate from either these TW tip sheets /bearcasts etc., Some have first bought at higher levels based on 100 before Easter, etc., and so are out of pocket and angry.. Also some might be here because Tom/others have told people to sell other shares, whilst promoting OPTI. I would say M'Mouse is definitely here because of this particular situation. Of course, i would not describe M'Mouse as a scumbag, like some of them as he can have a quite laudable style of posting, but he is definitely a weirdo, like who actually sets up his own thread just to bash a share in which has no material holding, short or long. I know others do this sort of thing, but not to the extent of setting up their own thread and devoting their daily life to this cause, it's extreme and odd behaviour.

[1bokke] 27/4/2017 14:48

Thanks Primal, much appreciated:)

[branboyd1] 27/4/2017 14:44

Elrico will you accept TW's job offer now that he says it's 'time for me retire then you take over'? ;)

[branboyd1] 27/4/2017 14:41

I have lost any respect I had for TW after reading the HSR comments section as he has showed himself to be a nasty piece of work. Never again will I trust his judgment, he seems to be losing the plot anyway.

[elrico] 27/4/2017 14:26

Scotty - spot on with ref bearcasts. The best part of the site, IMHO.

[onedayrodders] 27/4/2017 14:26

Update on wife's Go-Figure diet .. she lost 400 stones in a week

[riskybusiness1] 27/4/2017 14:24

These big deals will definitely come I have no doubt but you don't suddenly go from 0 - ms on launch surely this can be understood? The gradual build up will form a foundation of revenues from the build up of contacts. On £80-100k per month almost fixed cash burn imagine what happens when these big deals arrive. Pretty much printing money once this gets going. Comments about 'patents mean fa with out sales' prove the lack of understanding people gave here