Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[scotty1] 27/4/2017 10:04

Like it or not elrico peoples views on stocks can change for lots of reasons that is their prerogative just as your views seem to strenghen,a investor can do their dd but if in their opinion the company hasn't for any reason delivered etc etc their views can change.Please don't give me all that "please enlighten me" stuff as it really wont wash with me.

[primal123] 27/4/2017 09:43

TT - so critical of Opti has bought in at 4D who are years away from a product and revenues and he keeps banging on about Opti deals and financials. WE HAVE PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET AND LDL-LP LAUNCH NEXT WEEK!!!

[elrico] 27/4/2017 09:41

It is odd accusation..."falling in love with a stock." It always implies the lover has not done their DD and the facts have changed in some material way which should urge the lover to pack their bags and do a moonlight. The fact is, as we have been told for the last 18+ months, these commercial deals take at least 12 months, longer in some cases. People are now being accused of getting upset for alternative views, when in fact these are just opinions, but apparently opinions cannot be respected either.

If I am missing some material negative then please enlighten me and the rest of the lovers. It seems to me there are several here that have lost patience on the back of blogger hype and blame SOH for it. That is the material negative I see.

[someuwin] 27/4/2017 09:40

Re: 4D / DDDD

Its Woodford (or rather the mug clients of Woodford) you should have pity on. They were buying all the way up. Increasing to 25% of the company by 19 / 2 / 2016.

But they still hold that amount so maybe one day...

[lukead] 27/4/2017 09:29

oh dear,


talkingtrade - 19 Apr 2017 - 16:15:06 - 22332 of 22847 OptiBiotix - Better Science, Better Health. Better buy some! - OPTI



" On a positive note..switched some from here to DDDD a few days ago."

[judijudi] 27/4/2017 09:29

The actual graph (forgetting the share price difference) looks quite similar to Opti's one on the top right of this page, when you compare

[someuwin] 27/4/2017 09:25

4D chart. I dodged a bullet there!

[judijudi] 27/4/2017 09:18

This now proves that TW is doing much more harm than good regarding Opti and he has been doing so for many many months!!

[scotty1] 27/4/2017 09:18

With all due respect peoples views change on any stocks depending on whats occurring in said stock,that's why you should never fall in love with a stock as it is just another tool to try and make money.

[bobdown2] 27/4/2017 09:17

Just filtered someone...when it becomes too tedious why bother life's to short.

[spike_1] 27/4/2017 09:16

Re: 4D results: not only are they spending lots of cash (although they still have plenty), the two phase 1 trials are for 'niche' medical problems whereas OPTI are going for some of the biggest (and high profile) markets available: obesity and blood pressure, and that's just to begin with.

Phase 2 & 3 trials are way way more expensive than P1, so 4D will most likely need a partner at some point. And of course it will all take time! We grumble here about how long it's taking, but at least the end of the 'tunnel' is a known distance, and there is more or less guaranteed light (IMO) at the end of it.

Best wishes - Mike

[lukead] 27/4/2017 09:06

I am suspecting that this poster ironman is like many on here a hot share rocket/tom winn, call it what you will, subscriber. He is most likely is down on this share. his patience has gone. he was much more with the company just under a year ago, when he wrote the undermentioned post. He was even calling SOH, Stephen, very familiar. In his latest post he mentions that clown, Monkeywench, i don't like the company he keeps. This Monkey is i guess another subscriber. I do think that these Investor shows are are a washout and that OPTI should keep away. I would like to know what SOH really thinks of TW, probably unrepeatable.




ironman22 - 24 Jun 2016 - 12:50:15 - 13045 of 22841 OptiBiotix - Better Science, Better Health. Better buy some! - OPTI
Guys, just wanted to share with you a conversation I had with SOH this morning. Like most of you I had been getting a little apprehensive at the lack of news flow. I also wanted some clarification around the HSR article as you can never be too careful when it comes to the credibility of news about a company. Firstly I would like to say that I find it very reassuring that he would take time out of his day to give me a call to discuss a few things and truly shows the measure of him as a CEO. I am also very pleased to say that Stephen very quickly put any concerns I had aside, explaining how long it takes, and the process they have to go through to negotiate a deal with a partner company and at the same time dealing with confidentiality clauses not to mention the timing of any announcement means that any final deal takes time and patience to put in place. I also voiced my concerns over the DSM deal in light of the Brexit and in response to this he explained that this deal took well over a year to set up and that the amount of time, effort and DD that DSM put into it which included validating OPTI’s IP means that DSM were very impressed with what they found and so this JV will not change. Stephen also mentioned briefly the increasing interest from IIâ€T82;s which will undoubtedly increase further as the MC increases. So for me a very reassuring conversation and I think we all have a lot to look forward to in the not too distant future

[ironman22] 27/4/2017 08:37

Risky, you seem a little rattled like alot of folk on here who don't like it when someone says anything remotely negative about a share they hold and just for the record all of my views expressed are my own.Like Monkeywench says folk get to emotionally attached to a share and refuse to see what is clearly happening in front of their own eyes. I am repsonding to some folk who keep wondering why the share price is stagnating even with the news flow we've had and was saying it is quite obvious that it is because their is no hard financials relating to the business and right now it's valuation is based on hope of achieving profitability in the future and as such is overvalued. Opti may have alot of IP which no one else can copy directly but their is most definately more than one way to skin a cat and the same effect could be achieved with a different method by a n other.

[branboyd1] 27/4/2017 08:33

He is a big baby

[scotty1] 27/4/2017 08:29

All getting a bit personal on the reply section of TWs piece i see.

[parob] 27/4/2017 08:27

4D final results out this morning. They have burnt through over £15m of cash in a year. Very different to OPTI's £1.2m and we're starting to commercialise, whereas they are years off!

[bobdown2] 27/4/2017 08:10

Thanks....Bob..

[marnewton] 27/4/2017 08:07

The slanty one - keep up!¬)

M

[joyjoy13] 27/4/2017 08:05

Riskybusiness

Well said.

P.s. Hope you don't mind but I just thought worthy of sharing so I've posted it over on LSE board.

[bobdown2] 27/4/2017 07:54

Which one ?????

[marnewton] 27/4/2017 07:51

Holding the line, still...


Log scale daily candlestick chart:

[wreckage] 27/4/2017 06:43

What would be nice to see is an RNS stating that 500k units have been ordered quickly followed by a similar order then the share price will start to to move north. Until such a time I can only see the share price stagnate.

[riskybusiness1] 27/4/2017 00:02

It doesn't matter how many sales you get if those products can be copied. These products and the science to make them are completely unique. The patents bring opti its value and as a company is completely worthless without them. The comment about a corporate trying to break a patent and failing is an excellent sign. If the corporates can't do it they will have to use or buy parts of opti which is why this tech and the ability to protect it holds great value now and far more for the future. Without patents opti gets completely taken out of the market from the corporates it currently sits with and has been taking £200k+ from already.If you bought on the back of Tom W constant calls for 'imminent news' 'shares will be a £ by...' it is obvious that Tom w knows jack about opti. His 'we need deals with big numbers' talk is idiotic and has been very much responsible for views like a couple above. This is a shame as it has totally dampened the great progress the business continues to make as it executes its strategy. This is the process a company entering a new market must follow if it is to sustain its growth during commercialisation. Maybe Tom w is clueless about the process as his record of running a business does not command much respect, or maybe he has been playing his followers for fools.Revenues, like any company ever built, take time to build....what is worth pointing out again..opti runs at £80-£100k per month and will not increase following the pending increase in revenues from launch of lpldl. It will not take long to become profitable.

[monkeywench1] 26/4/2017 22:52

Too true ironman. Some folk are too emotionally attached to their shares.