Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[2350220] 20/10/2017 12:49

Our young Skin seems a bit happier this morning.
John

[imnotlong] 20/10/2017 12:42

All seems to be going swimmingly well.
Just an observation on SoH's comments above - how long does the 'beginning of the commercial process' last? Can he still use this term for another year? It's been used all this year. A genuine question not a moan.

[elrico] 20/10/2017 12:35

SOH comment on Adnan Wolf's feedback:

This reduction is consistent with our data in a larger study group (50) which shows the higher the cholesterol result the greater the effect of LP-LDL on cholesterol reduction. We are pleased that the results from our humans studies are consistently being replicated in individual customers buying LP-LDL. Typically in human studies you look for a ‘group effect’ as their may be individual variations in response depending on diet, age, lifestyle etc. We also know from other studies that cholesterol can vary 5-10% throughout a day within an individual depending on the food they eat and the timing of testing and so a result based on a single subject can be subject to other factors which can mask an effect. However, this is another example of the feedback we are getting from many customers as to the effectiveness of LP-LDL which given its unique ability to reduce both cholesterol and blood pressure is creating a lot of excitement and interest in the industry.

Whilst at the beginning of the commercial process this customer feedback helps reinforce the potential of these next generation science based probiotics in preventing and managing many of the chronic lifestyle condition which cause so morbidity and mortality in society today.

[shrewdmole] 20/10/2017 12:09

I have asked before but where can I buy lp-ldl online?

[deadcert] 20/10/2017 11:41

Sorry Adnan, which one is my serum total cholesterol? I assume its either the 6.8 or the 5.18 to use for the trial
Thanks

[adnanwolf] 20/10/2017 11:28

Serum total cholesterol should be below 5.0. HDL above 1.0 and Trig less than 2.3Thanks

[deadcert] 20/10/2017 11:12

adnan
I started my trial 18th Aug after visiting my Dr for the first time in years. (thankfully)
My blood pressure 142/78 but which cholesterol level do you use?
either, serum chol 6.8, serum HDL chol level 1.62, serum LDL chol 4.63, serum cholesterol/HDL ratio 4.2, or serum non HDL cholesterol 5.18.
My Doctor was very interested. I will let you know results around 20th November.

[adnanwolf] 20/10/2017 10:31

I know I know....... I make the worst patient:))

[john henry] 20/10/2017 10:25

Adnanwolf, Cholesterol levels can be reduced dramatically through excercise and increasing your natural metabolism. i reduced my Chloresterol levels from 5.5 to 3.9 through excercise and decent diet. Oily Fish, Avocado, walnuts etc
i too suffer from Hereditary bad Cholesterol.
I have also started to take LP LDL

[adnanwolf] 20/10/2017 10:15

I don't mind taking another reading in 6 weeks or so. But will be adjusting diet. I had a large choc chip cookie and Danish pastry the night before the test!!! That has to stop. My target would be 5.0 or below as a South Asian. If I get back to 5.5 I will prob add statin once a week and that should do the trick. Patients with bad side effects we do sometimes advise statin once or twice a week. There is a trial on this for Rosuvastatin which showed some reduction. ThanksAdnan

[siennadelekat21] 20/10/2017 10:11

Great feedback from Adnan - nice to see some real-world results. Thanks : )Chrisg11, I believe back when the human trials were RNS'd by Opti we came to the conclusion that the cholesterol reduction would not be quite as much as statins but really not far off.This feedback from Adnan shows similar results after the recommended 3 months usage. I do agree it would be interesting to get further results as time goes on to see if it has indeed stabilised at that level. One month intervals would be great if possible Adnan hint hint ; )Personally I wouldn't have expected anything less than the cholesterol level to increase slightly after transferring from Statins to LP-LDL.Its a shame Adnan didn't get a couple more readings during this 3 month period - it would've have been nice to know whether the levels shot back up towards the 7.5 and then slowly dribbled down over the 3 months to where it is now for example?I look forward to reading further feedback from Adnan and others that may be trying it.CheersSienna

[rafboy] 20/10/2017 09:58

Chris, to have a level playing field you have to use the baseline figure of 7.5. I agree on face value the tablets were more effective but there are side effects and you don't get the blood pressure reduction. I agree this is not totally scientific but that has already been done by OPTI and it showed a reduction in both cholesterol and blood pressure. Adnan's results confirm that LP LDL works.

[john henry] 20/10/2017 09:45

Chris his chlo level with no medication is around 7.5 with statins this is reduced to 5.5. Using LP LDL 7.5 is reduced to 6. However no longer suffers the side effects from Statins.

[chrisg11] 20/10/2017 09:38

There seems to be some artistic license in the interpretation of Dr Adnan's results.

It's completely incorrect to use 7.5 as a baseline and clearly the cholesterol level has increased since starting the new formula.

I would agree that further results over a longer period are needed to make a more accurate assessment of things.

The BP readings are interesting as this is the second poster showing this effect although as with all the evidence so far the study numbers are low.

I am a long term holder so have a great interest in this but let's keep to scientific accuracy.

If I have completely misunderstood the results then please correct me but it seems very simple to me..Adnan's cholesterol went up on the new formulation and its plain wrong to claim a reduction.

[rafboy] 20/10/2017 09:08

uzbek2, a reasonable question. However, if you introduce a low fat diet or use slimbiome I would expect it to reduce further. Also 3 months is probably long enough to give a good indication of a sustained lower level.

[uzbek2] 20/10/2017 09:02

Thanks Ratboy, I guess the question now is, after 3 months the cholesterol level has moved back up slightly to 6. Now over the next 3 months, will it move up to say 6.5 or down to 5.5.

[nicktopten] 20/10/2017 08:59

Pharma performance from a natural product!!
getting well excited.... if this doesn't turn into a world wide additive (LP LDL), to any number of food ingredients , I will eat the box the stuff came in!!
said it now... must be Friday!

[rafboy] 20/10/2017 08:49

uzbek2, I think you are correct but Adnan's cholesterol was 7.5 before taking any medication so if he came off the statins the assumption is it would go back up to that level. Hence at 6 it is a 20% reduction from that level of 7.5. However, there is the added benefit of no side effects and a good reduction in blood pressure.

[nicktopten] 20/10/2017 08:36

Hi Adnan, those are amazing results!! well done!
Opti are interested in getting anecdotal evidence and feedback on people taking their products. I did a phone interview with Vane Percy and Roberts, ( Opti PR company), to let them know my story and results from taking LP LDL. I am sure they would be interested in your take on things, ( being a GP and all!)
cheers Nick

[uzbek2] 20/10/2017 08:36

Adnan, thanks for the very positive news. Just for my own clarification, you moved directly from statins to LP LDL so at that point were at 5.5 and then increased to 6 whilst using the LP LDL? Is that correct?

Now you will continue to use LP LDL to try and move from 6 to 5?

[rafboy] 20/10/2017 08:36

For me the blood pressure reduction is as significant as the cholesterol reduction. I had a pacemaker box change operation on Wednesday, my 4th heart pacemaker, and my blood pressure was similar to Adnan's. So it would be of great benefit to reduce it.

[parob] 20/10/2017 08:25

Excellent results Adnan. Thanks for sharing. When you consider how much you'd have to spend on benecol products to get your cholesterol down by just 10%, these really are good value with the added bonus of blood pressure reduction!Chart looks set for a decent move up next week.

[woodaldo] 20/10/2017 08:24

Excellent adnanwolf, thanks for the feedback. If I remember rightly you work in the medical profession correct?
Would be really interesting to see someone who is on statins stay on statins and take the LP LDL strain as well, as I believe you can take both and further cholesterol loss.

[judijudi] 20/10/2017 08:23

Good news on your results
Back to being healthy must feel great
Good news our product seems to work