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[elrico] 16/10/2017 21:56

With thanks to John for his work loading to a file sharing site.

THE BEAUTY OF BIO
WE KNOW PROBIOTICS CAN HELP YOUR
DIGESTION BUT WHAT CAN THEY DO FOR YOUR SKIN
CLAIRE COLEMAN INVESTIGATES

With the hottest health-food books of the year invariably featuring the
word "gut" or "microbiome", we've become quite au fait with probiotics
and looking after the "good bacteria" in our stomachs. The latest figures
suggest that whether we're popping a supplement after a course of antibiotics, replacing our regular yoghurt with Activia, or even making our own kefir and kimchi, we're more pro-probiotics (sorry) than we've ever been before. But what about "good" bacteria in your skincare? Could the technology that gives us a healthy gut also be the answer to our dreams of a clear, glowing complexion? Brands such as Aurelia Probiotic Skincare and Gallinee, with its "skincare for the microbiome", think so. The mainstream brand Clinique has also jumped on the band- wagon, with its Redness Solution range that contains "probiotic technology", while Vichy, Niod and La Roche-Posay are all using probiotic and prebiotic ingredients.

Skin conditions such as rosacea and acne seem most likely to benefit from
probiotic technology, but there is increasing evidence that the secret
to anti-ageing could, in part, be down to keeping the bacteria on your skin happy. Recent research shows that the number and type of bacteria in the microbiome of healthy skin is different to that of skin affected by acne, eczema, psoriasis and other types of inflammation. One theory is that if we tinker with the microbiome, making it more like that of healthy skin, we could get rid of certain skin conditions and even slow the rate at which it ages, as that is related to inflammation, too. Only, of course, it's not that simple.

"Keeping bacteria alive in a cosmetic cream is hard," says Dr. Catherine
O'Neil, senior lecturer in clinical biochemistry in the dermatological sciences
research group at the University of Manchester. "Even if it weren't, we don't know
if it would be safe to apply live bacteria to potentially compromised skin."
Instead, what most of these skincare companies are doing is creating extracts that
have the same effects as live bacteria. "The microbiome changes the skin because molecules in the bacteria send messages to the body. But these signaling molecules can still be present in a 'dead' extract," O'Neil says. "We have found an extract that can strengthen the skinbarrier, exclude pathogens and heal skin in the same way the original bacteria can." Her findings will form the basis of products created by the SkinBio Therapeutics brand in the future.


According to Elisa Simonpietri, head of science at Vichy, that's exactly how one of
the strengthening, hydrating ingredients in its Slow Age range works. It is made by
fermenting a type of bacterium called Bifidobacterium longum and, though no
longer live, "it still has the properties of the original bacteria". You will find the same ingredient in Aurelia Probiotic Skincare and in Lancome Genifique Serum.
Elsewhere derivatives of another type of bacterium, Lactobacillus, which
have the same anti-inflammatory action as the live bacteria, are found in
Gallinee's microbiome-focused skincare a nd in the "probiotic technology" of the
Clinique Redness Solutions range. So what about prebiotics? The main thing you need to know is that "prebiotics selectively feed the 'good' bacteria", says Marie Drago, founder of Gallinee. "We use ingredients that are known to have this effect on the bacteria in the gut, but have also been shown to do the same in skin." And her company isn't the only one making these claims. Niod's new Survival serums use a similar prebiotic complex", the La Roche¬Posay Toleriane range is another brand that boasts "prebiotic thermal water", and both Oskia and Ren offer products containing
prebiotics. However, there is still a lot we don't understand about the bugs on our skin. "Many of these probiotic and prebiotic products have active ingredients that have yet to be independently proven," says Nausheen Qureshi, a biochemist who helps
facialists and doctors create skincare products. "We know they help to enhance
hydration and bolster the skin's protective barrier, but it doesn't follow that that's as a result of their impact on the microbiome." Like O'Neil, she points out that pH may have a bearing — "skins with rosacea or acne have a different pH to normal skins" — and suggests it's possible that it is the pH of the probiotic and prebiotic products that could be having an effect. The takeaway? Probiotic and prebiotic skincare could well be beneficial for all of us, whatever our age or skin type, even if it's just for souped-up moisturising — but for now it is only one part of the solution, not a magic bullet.

[elrico] 16/10/2017 17:30

MM playing games. Two source struggled to buy tranches over 10k. MM probably looking for the pesky day traders to help them fill an order.

[owenmo] 16/10/2017 16:58

A little subdued to suggest any significant news tomorrow! But you never know, do you?

[elrico] 16/10/2017 11:50

John - Sounds like someone at The Times did some serious research for a change... How refreshing. ;)

[2350220] 16/10/2017 11:46

Hi Elrico,
Didn't want to pay it all here, as it is about two pages of A4.

Checking the links, I couldn't get the pdf file to work for me,
BUT the Word Doc seems to download fine.
John

[elrico] 16/10/2017 11:35

John - If you have converted to word, why go to the hassle of uploading and obtaining a URL...copy paste and add link to original article. Job done.

PS Phil didn't have bad luck, it was drugs whiskey and rock & roll lifestyle that killed him. What a bassist, Irelands best ever, IMHO.

[2350220] 16/10/2017 11:33

Thanks Someuwin.
Here you go.
pdf version:


and Word Doc version:


Hope that these work. Dr. Cath is one of the contributors.

Well, I've learnt something new today.
All the best,
John

[someuwin] 16/10/2017 11:18

MediaFire.com used to be good. Haven't used it for a while though.

else just search for free file hosting sites.

[zebbo] 16/10/2017 11:06

Agree DL, heavy buying could be Inst interest. Or wind of a good RNS, possibly both...lol

[someuwin] 16/10/2017 11:01

...You need to upload the file to a free file hosting site then post the link on here.

[devonlad] 16/10/2017 10:58

Buyer around 50k just gone through was a buy, interesting, could be institutional looking at the blocks!

[2350220] 16/10/2017 10:55

I've converted the Times article into A Word doc and a pdf.
How do I get them into here, or onto the Skin Bio thread?
John

[someuwin] 16/10/2017 10:30

O/T

VELA looks interesting. Haven't done much research but seems to have it's fingers in some interesting pies.

Valuation of only £1.5m so lots of room for upside.

[judijudi] 16/10/2017 09:35

Reckon seller still around
Chucking an odd 10k out every so often

[2350220] 16/10/2017 09:28

Two page article in the Sunday Times magazine about Microbiome in skincare products. Can't type it all here, but here's a snippet from opening para:
"With the hottest health-food books featuring the word 'microbiome', we've become au fait with pro biotic and looking after the Good bacteria in our stomachs.
But what about 'Good bacteria in your skincare? Could the technology that gives us a healthy gut also be the answer to our dreams of a clear, glowing complexion?
Brands such as Aurelia Probiotic Skincare and Gallinee, with its' skincare for the microbiome', think so."

That's just a flavour of the article, but it gives me the impression that this is becoming more mainstream.
The writer Claire Coleman mentions several big names who are involved.

If you think it's worth a read, I could scan it and convert the whole article to a pdf with some clever OCR software.

If so, how would I post the pdf document on here?

John

[judijudi] 16/10/2017 09:11

If it goes lower I'm in for a few more

[parsons4] 16/10/2017 09:10

Now back to reality, I have just topped up at 67.4p this is now my second largest holding behind REDT. Waiting for some news now !! GLA

[judijudi] 16/10/2017 08:39

Not in the slightest bit worried
Mee Ewd
:)

[fathenry] 16/10/2017 08:38

dont it ever goup, judi you aint woried tho lol

[wreckage] 16/10/2017 08:14

No no Nooooooooah

For me its Rogers Hodgson performing Fools Overture with full orchestra. Watch it on U tube.

Wreckage

Phil Lynott was a warrior, unfortunately for him he had a lot of bad luck.

[owenmo] 16/10/2017 08:00

Well Icarus Mr. Lynott was a neighbour and he's cool - however it's Miles for me and the Divine One but wtfdik?

[elrico] 15/10/2017 23:26

Hey John - I think you need to stop hanging around with Nuns n Roses and Aerosith, Slader Runner is probably a better fit socially. ;)

[2350220] 15/10/2017 22:48

Oh dear, I blame that flippin' Elrico for this whole conversation, what with his IronBrew Maiden and his Def Leopardskin, and Motormouth an all.
John