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[ihavenoclue] 13/9/2009 19:28

Birmingham City 0 - Aston Villa 1 ... what a great weekend

[ihavenoclue] 11/9/2009 20:01

Mike_F - 11 Sep'09 - 15:37 - 2053 of 2069


The fall did seem sharp and undeserved so at least we know the reason behind it now.

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I don't think that is the reason at all. At the start of the last rise I called it there would be a Barclays holding RNS and that is what happened. That was out BEFORE the large rise not after so this RNS today is not the reason for the large fall in the main.

I think it "suffered" because the market is so good at the moment. There are a lot of traders around and when it started to rise it showed up on a few lists and the push began. Then when it peaked and started to drop the weaker holders/traders got out and moved their profit to other shares and that caused the drop.

Not to worry though .. in the fullness of time we know where this will be. What did surprise me on the rise .. not ONE deramper even when it fell back. I have NEVER seen that before on any BB.

Regards
IHNC

[ihavenoclue] 11/9/2009 19:56

QUINAN - 11 Sep'09 - 12:14 - 2043 of 2068

To be honest there is so many good stocks at the mo its hard picking the one which will move first.

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Oh I know .. it is an awfully hard market ;-)

[lombiff] 11/9/2009 16:04

curry - good for you - sounds like we may have half of the Barclays holding between us!!

[muzoman] 11/9/2009 16:00

Quinn, Lombiff,

I total agreement with your replies.

I am in the fortunate position to sit and wait.

Good weekend all.

[currypata kai] 11/9/2009 16:00

Lombiff

I havent sold any

[lombiff] 11/9/2009 15:40

muzoman - well said! - add to that the automatic triggering of stops and buys, and it would make for a bumpy ride if you watch it too closely. As I said earlier today, the trend is good here since March, although I'm not sure technicals hold much sway on a low volume stock like this. Fortunately for me, investing is a "hobby", so I can sit back and wait for news here (which I think is still at least six weeks away).

You're right about sentiment. I tried spreadbetting for a while but (imo) the stress of watching the minute-by-minute ticks for a 1% rise or fall just made me make bad decisions. Day trading would "do my head in". Good luck to anyone who trades that way, but I'm still convinced the best way is to stick with something you've researched and that you believe in, and then pick an exit point and stick to it.

Good weekend all

[mike_f] 11/9/2009 15:39

QUIN, the next level will be 80-100p when news hits ;) lol Have a good weekend all.

[quinan] 11/9/2009 15:29

Muzoman good post and you are right, we all want to make profit hence we invest in the market on the hope our investment will prove fruitful. But there is also the knack in picking the right stock to invest in. I too play the game when a stock rises and try to jump in and out making some money on the way. But I always have stocks which I feel are long term beats and hold these for the bigger gain. Daily fluctuation gives us all something to talk about until the next piece of news. One thing is clear and that is NPH is slowing crawling back up each time we find a better support level 3 weeks back it was 19-25p now its 25-32p so logically the next spike and fall back could see us at 35-42p and so on and so on until we all hit our profit taking level whatever that may be..

[muzoman] 11/9/2009 15:18

FWIW Gents/Ladies,
I am a holder and not just interrupting your thread. Just thought I would add my penny's worth as I do follow all your comments quite closely.

This is just a theory but I believe that it is reasonably valid. The fact that information is so readily available at a touch of a button nowdays there will be a lot of daytraders about. Folk who have made a decision to make this a career. I am not saying that they will influence the rise and falls significantly in most cases but they will trade because they need to make money. And thus they will all have their own trading patterns possibly based on percentages and what they can cope with. Hence the de/rampers on many of the boards. A lot of pi's blame the MM's [I hate them too ]but these guys are having the time of their lives right now because there is a lot of bottom fishing attempts going on. So they [the mm's] move the prices at will and the spreads as well. One only has to look at comments to see who will sell at the first opportunity of making a tiny profit.What is the bet that the moment NPH hits the 30's there will be a selloff again [profit taking] because lurking amongst us are those who bought when the price dropped a while ago, as I mentioned in my earlier reply, and will sell to satisfy their own needs and ....

The fundamentals do not matter nor does news. The trend is their friend..... but only short term. That is why there are these radical movements which really go nowhere in the short/medium term and basically flatline based on averages.

It has been said on many of the threads that posters do not have an effect on the movements and perhaps that is right. I do not know whether this is true but what I do know is that 'sentiment'plays a lot of tricks with the average investors mind.

I have no problem with profit taking. What I do have a problem with is where news is expected to satisfy the needs of the day players. Because they have to make that short term buck! And when the news is not forthcoming they start moaning and we all know what happens next.

FWIW.

GLA and have an enjoyable weekend.

[thearcticfox] 11/9/2009 15:04

Good to see small investors still keen to get in, and the spreads a bit more realistic too.

[mike_f] 11/9/2009 15:04

111,803 Buys vs 36,300 Sells yet were down! Hmmm

[mike_f] 11/9/2009 15:01

3 Buys in since they dropped us down yet they aren't putting us back up... beestards...

[quinan] 11/9/2009 14:44

Cheers all for clearing that up, there was always going to be profit taking after such a jump, so good to know just some PI have taken advantage of rise, we maybe seeing them now buying back in so another spike maybe on the way??

[lombiff] 11/9/2009 14:43

sorry muzoman et al - I was slow typing and didn't see your message before hitting the post reply button - that's the problem with this one-finger typing

[lombiff] 11/9/2009 14:41

Quinan - arctic is right, but Barclays is all nominee holdings (including mine and, I think, currypata's and a few others on here). I did add a few (70K if memory serves) between the previous two RNSs but obviously some others have sold a few. I don't know if it's 3% or 5% that is notifiable - if it's 5% (1.55m shares), then they could've gone from just over to just under that.

[mike_f] 11/9/2009 14:40

totally agree arctic, unjustified drop again... gotta love 'em!

[thearcticfox] 11/9/2009 14:38

I think MM's have dropped the price following that RNS to try and get some more sellers off the back of it. Anybody glancing over the annoucement is going to assume barclays have only just dumped about 5%. IMO for what it's worth anyway.

[mike_f] 11/9/2009 14:37

The fall did seem sharp and undeserved so at least we know the reason behind it now.

[muzoman] 11/9/2009 14:31

A lot of people get confused with this happening. Barclays are only the 'nominees' and report on the total holdings on behalf of all their customers. I agree that the notification is late. A lot of pi's make this mistake in assessing 'major shareholdership' percentages and thinking 'so and so' major big players have invested in a company. But it would only take one or two big individual holders to selloff their holdings and I suspect that is what happened about a week and a half ago when the price dropped from in the 30's.

Hope this helps and if there is any disagreement please post and correct me if I am wrong.

GLA

[thearcticfox] 11/9/2009 14:26

Agreed Quin, they could make it a lot easier for us amateurs to understand. But I think they like making things more complicated so they can manipulate proceedings in an easier manner.

[thearcticfox] 11/9/2009 14:23

Must've been barclays account holders profit taking after the recent spike. I'm surprised it takes so long for the notification to come out though, a week and a half.

[quinan] 11/9/2009 14:21

That's what's confusing me but if you look at the 4th of august to now they have around 50k more shares??????

Why can't they just say X sold X amount or X brought X amount and that's it LOL

[mike_f] 11/9/2009 14:19

From how i've read it your right arctic.

[thearcticfox] 11/9/2009 14:17

It looks to me as if they've dropped some shares quin. It says they've gone from above 5% to below notifiable, on the 2nd of Sept. Or am I reading it wrongly?