National Grid Share Discussion Threads

[coxsmn] 27/2/2018 19:30

Thankfully JC isn't pm.

[justsaying14] 27/2/2018 18:50

Corbyn has already confirmed that National Grid isn’t on his agenda, he’s going for the smaller energy suppliers not the “grid”... Centrica reconfirming their dividend and the end of the final share buy back in April I’m confident will increase the share price; it suits some people to keep the share price low at the moment, unfortunately way of the world at the moment ..

[srpactive] 26/2/2018 14:21

Get you lot here with your ng. screaming towards 800p,
good luck all.

[dr biotech] 26/2/2018 11:17

Had Farage lost the vote would he have shut up and given up? No of course not, he would have pushed for another vote (ditto SNP). So in my view its not unreasonable for the remainers to push for another vote. I also don't like the way that every leave vote has been interpreted by some as a vote for a hard brexit. Most I know who voted leave were 60/40 sure it was the right thing.

Could even say that given the demographics, a couple of years of younger mostly pro EU voters becoming eligible and a couple of mostly leave elderly voters shuffling off their mortal coil that the vote in this point in time would be different. When we vote in an election we don't vote forever, so I don't see a referendum should be either.

Having said that, another divisive vote is the last thing we need. If there is a time for it, then it should be after we have seen what sort of deal we get if any.

[arf dysg] 26/2/2018 09:54

careful (6111) "a change of direction after another vote would create civil war."


I'll tell you what creates civil war - a referendum in which the result is very close to 50-50, guaranteeing that the maximum number of people will bitterly resent the result.

If it had been, say, 75-25 one way or the other, the 25% would have accepted the result, but something which is so close is guaranteed to cause massive angst on BOTH sides, which is exactly what we see. This BB is just reflecting the division in the whole country.


Note that I haven't said which way I voted.

[wskill] 26/2/2018 09:34

Where else can you get a yield of 5.9% which increases with RPI and the dividend is covered by earnings + the majority of the earnings will from the US in the future as most investment is being funneled there. That will do me as far away from the marx brothers as possible seems like other investors are thinking the same and buying NG.

[pogue] 26/2/2018 09:13

My language was due to the frustration of someone bringing up a pointless old argument not at losing the argument please read what was said before pointing a finger at me and trying to insinuate I lack language skills otherwise I may take out my frustration at you as well. I share your frustration at people talking off topic perhaps you can find another way of getting them to stay on topic I find raising the aggression levels via language usually gets the point over and it clearly did.
I am here trying to find reasons to buy not listen to Remoaners.

[septimus quaid] 26/2/2018 08:59

..and you repeating everything makes it all ok?

[septimus quaid] 26/2/2018 07:58

careful, you only got “bored” because you came here expecting mumsnet style hugs and kisses for your loony remainer views. Looks like you got a good scourging instead.

[pogue] 25/2/2018 19:35

careful
well done in replying to my post. I get bored with the argument and when someone suggests a revote I get industrial we are where I am glad you understand the consequences of another vote. If we suffer due to Brexit though that is the price of democracy obviously I do not believe we will, short term there will be an issue which I expect Brexitters to ramp to the max, but long term we will be absoultly fine there is a whole world out there to trade with and the EU is a backward looking closed shop as per 1970s UK from my experience and will suffer because of that compared to a forward looking nimble footed economy like the UK.

[coxsmn] 25/2/2018 18:18

It's pretty clear now that if you want Brexit betrayed, vote Labour! Because they'll be no difference in our global relationships if Labour win the next election other than the fact we will perhaps have left the Treaty of Rome.

[eeza] 25/2/2018 18:07

The original vote was to join the Common Market - not the EU.
Everyone accepted the result, even if they disagreed with the result.
That is democracy. Argue your case, Vote, accept the result.

It is only now that accepting the result is challenged - by the 'snowflake' entitled generation. Not my President.

The same snowflakes who denigrate the 'Boomers' (they've taken everything & left us with nothing) whilst the same entitled sit around waiting for the 'Boomers' to turn their toes and that the 'flakes' can claim their inheritances.

[careful] 25/2/2018 18:01

pogue
brexiteers really are passionate about their beliefs.
A bit of industrial language is ok, it adds gravitas.

a change of direction after another vote would create civil war.
but it would only happen if we all start to suffer.


Bored with this topic;
subject closed.
Hoping my significant NG. hoping these do well tomorrow.

[careful] 25/2/2018 17:45

coxsmn
Let us agree to differ.
I would agree that in a democracy the outcome of a democratic vote is accepted, but can be overturned and superseded by another vote.


eeza
Don't get worked up.
As a pensioner who talks to other pensioners we are a split group. Everyone feels quite strongly about their position in or out.
I hardly know single person who has changed their position despite us all knowing lots more about the complexities.
I only get the data about the majority of elderly voters being brexiteers from opinion polls. Similarly the young voters, on balance were remainers.

I an one of the uninformed. I knew nothing about the customs union, and many other important matters.
I voted in near total ignorance.

[coxsmn] 25/2/2018 17:29

Careful, in a democracy the outcome of a democratic vote is accepted, there is no second vote.

[careful] 25/2/2018 17:12

coxsmn
democracy is exactly having another vote because we do not like the result.
nothing is permanent.

hernando
that is wrong.
these people are appointed, it is the council of ministers they answer to.

We appoint judges, Armes service leaders, high ranking civil servants, the governor of the Bank of England..and many more.

There is an EU parliament of elected mp's even I have one. Great pensions, Ferage will get £70k per annum.

[hernando2] 25/2/2018 17:08

Coxsmn- But the EU do that so well, They said..look here Ireland keep going back to the people until they say yes..they did and the people said yes..

Democracy in action EU style

[careful] 25/2/2018 17:05

Amazed that the referendum was legal.
Some experts say it was only advisory, not legally binding.

The original Scottish referendum voted to leave the UK.
And yet they are still in, why is that?
It is because the sensible rule was that at least 40% of eligible voters must vote to leave on such an important matter.
They failed to get 40% of registered voters to bother to vote out.

The EU referendum from last year had a similar result.
And yet again they failed to get 40% to vote leave.
...but this time that condition was removed, we could have had any result on a low turnout.
Over 16m enlightened, hard working dynamic people, many young voted to remain, but the Grandads Army of pensioners swamped them.

[hernando2] 25/2/2018 16:59

Careful - you are correct - the ability to elect or remove your leaders...you can't in the EU..you can in each country but they are dictated to by the UNELECTED leaders in the EU

So in fact you agree with one of the main issues for Brexit- well done