National Grid Share Discussion Threads

[arf dysg] 20/11/2017 13:32

UtyINV (5352) "David Davis said he wants to retire in 2019."

That's what they do to replicants, isn't it? There are probably a few who would like to retire David Davis.

[septimus quaid] 20/11/2017 12:16

Sometimes, companies can just fall out of favour (frustrating as hell, I know).

Doubly annoying with a good divy stock, as you could have got an even better yield.

[utyinv] 20/11/2017 11:58

There is a downward trend and it appears that as soon as the US opens the fall is exacerbated and then the next day the trend continues.

This is a sign of continuous shorting but the LSE shorts disclosure doesn’t show anything. So must be the Yanks but that data is not easily accessible.

Question is if it is being shorted, why?

These go Xd on Thursday so I would not be surprised to see a 25p fall on Wednesday’s closing price.

This is IMO only and if anyone disagrees I am open to listen to all views.

[veryniceperson] 19/11/2017 07:43

Coxman, that last post. i do hope your right. If you have an election in the next 12 months Labour would win and that will effect the share price going forward. They could bring it back in the public hands and get some of the money back by selling of the bits they don't want (American part and others).

[ianood] 18/11/2017 19:49

Explain the concept of money to Corbyn and McDonnell

[coxsmn] 18/11/2017 16:09

It is highly unlikely NG would be Nationalised. Even if Corbyn was elected there is simply not the money to do it. The truth of the matter is NG has served everyone better since they were privatised. One of the factors Labour did better than expected in the election was because it was partly a vote about Brexit. By the next election, Brexit will be behind us and the Conservatives most likely with a new pm. All imho.

[skinny] 18/11/2017 12:43

Complete uncoupling this year.

[careful] 18/11/2017 11:51

hard to separate the current political situation from the fate of NG.
It is not about economic fundamentals now, but politics.
That includes the threat of nationalisation from labour, and the Tory reaction to it with severe regulation.

[atlantic57] 18/11/2017 11:47

Cox surely politics are a major factor
In the price of ng.
You can certainly not discuss remainers
V leavers but the political fall out
From that will impact the price.

[coxsmn] 18/11/2017 11:33

Please can we stick to discussing National Grid on this thread rather than a political debate between remoaners and leavers.

[coxsmn] 18/11/2017 08:59

Dipped my toes in here and secured myself a nice 5% dividend, love it.

[atlantic57] 18/11/2017 01:00

Well whichever side of the argument you are on the moment of truth is dawning.
Who will blink first.The British Public were very badly informed about the detail of
What was entailed by staying in or leaving.

If I was running a political party it would have zero members as I would tell people the truth.

I guess to win an election in a democracy you have to tell people what they want to hear.

[esmerelda] 18/11/2017 00:45

You're missing the point about a U.K./EU deal utyINV. There is one on offer to the UK but it isn't acceptable to the Conservative party because it would split them. The EU will offer EEA status but that requires oversight of the ECJ and freedom of movement. There is no other alternative to that. You can leave but if you want free trade then this is the deal on offer. If that is not accepted then you get no deal, a hard border between the Irish states and the French get to play fun and games with our imports at the Calais border. It is our politics that is preventing a deal and our politicians who are afraid to explain the consequences of leaving the EU on the economy of this country.

[gutterhead] 17/11/2017 10:53

Uty, well said
How much cheaper can these go, look ridiculously good value

[utyinv] 17/11/2017 10:46

Would have thought with the Dow rocketing last night the FTSE would put in a shining start.

Looks like political uncertainty is causing no end of trouble! Not so much as Corbyn IMO but the game Barnier and Junkers are playing with the UK.

I just wish for once we could put political differences aside and both Labour and Conservatives join together to get the deal done! To tell the EU buearocrats that we are being reasonable and quite prepared to walk away from talks if the EU don’t stop trying to punish the UK for democratically deciding to leave.

As stated before I voted to remain and I am a European (as well as British) and I am disgusted at how Barnier and Junkers have been behaving. So much so, as a Remainer I believe we should all rally round the Gov to secure a deal. If a deal is not possible then walk away! We have never surrendered and do not intend to do so in the future

All this will come back to haunt the EU fascists!

[justsaying14] 16/11/2017 23:18

I’m going to sell on Wednesday buy back in early December ... Just my very humble opinion

[bountyhunter] 16/11/2017 11:47

I see that the yield is exactly 5% right now covered 4.68 x
...defensive qualities should underpin although the dip below £9 could be considered significant by chartists; the immediate direction will most likely continue to be driven by politics I think so that's anyone's guess!

[bountyhunter] 16/11/2017 11:44

I think that the strong political factors atm are overriding the normal correlation but if these factors reduce we should see a correction, imho fwiw!

[utyinv] 16/11/2017 11:30

Bounty,

Just had a look at the gilts graph again in relation to NG and the two do not appear to be mirroring each other anymore to the detriment of NG.

Any views ?

[andyj] 15/11/2017 12:49

Totally agree, and by running scared of JC and trying to win his voters she will lose her own. Defensives now very out of favour, but their time will come again as long as JC is kept out. The FTSE may look high, but remember BP and Shell add 5pts each for each % point they rise. In other words, they have added 250 points in the last few months. Take that off and a correction has already happened! Whether it becomes a bear market is another matter.

[utyinv] 15/11/2017 08:56

andyj,

You might be right, but previous experiences will show it always falls far more than the divi which we all know is 15.49p.

I hope you are right, but I expect over the two days following Xd the price will wipe out far more than what the divi pays.

Utilities, banks, retailers and defence construction are all out of favour right now and the HFTs and other institutions never miss an opportunity to exploit sentiment.

JC and JM want to destroy the Utilities and TM is clueless what she should be doing. So much so, she hits on any idea of JC and adopts a watered down version for herself thinking it will redeeem her falling popularity.

[andyj] 14/11/2017 23:56

30p fall for a 15p div? 1.6% payout, after costs = 3% to 4% fall? Can't see it, but I'll wait until it's ex div.

[utyinv] 14/11/2017 22:59

Nice rise in the US this evening. We could possibly see a nice start to Wednesday and hopefully finish in the blue for a change🤞

[utyinv] 14/11/2017 16:50

How many days in a row has NG fallen now guys/gals? Sorry I have lost count.LOL week Friday they go Xd so for a 15.49p divi expect a fall of 25-30p Fri 24th.

Question is though how much will it fall before it goes ex-divi and how far have we to fall? $64k question!