Mediclinic Share Discussion Threads

[ryan83] 30/8/2013 11:54

EXACTLY PW

So might aswell vote no

[pwhite73] 30/8/2013 11:47

Leo according to Companies House is dormant company. There less is of Leo than there is of MDC. Leo does not exlst as a business.The transaction with MDC is for the listing. With the listing certain directors can start paying themselves six figure salaries on the pretext or pretence they are building a world class oil and gas company from scratch.There is a reason why the consolidation is 1000 - 1. New equity at 1p will wipe out current MDC holders to the tune of 99%.

[nevik2] 30/8/2013 11:17

Any value being shown is meaningless.We need to know more about Leo before we can see if we get a little or zero back. I've got 5.2m paid just over £7k. So anything less than £2k back is a no vote for me. It's all gone as far as I'm concerned. I'm not given LEO a leg up for free willingly.
So who is behind LEO and what are they putting into it? What has LEO in mind for the immediate to generate money?
They need to have something the market thinks is a good idea other than a wooly plan of looking for opportunities, someone must know there are opportunities to create LEO in the first place. So what have they in mind?
To get our backing we need something other than a vague idea, so until then the vote is No thanks from me.

[ryan83] 29/8/2013 21:13

for potential relist value, look at TERN (ex SLME) and TAVI (ex SGO) existing shareholders at a 70-90% loss.

4screws same with Halifax

[4screws] 29/8/2013 21:03

notice the value of mdc when suspended is showing back up in hbos account
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[ryan83] 29/8/2013 20:52

exactly. Well just re-checked and got 2.6m shares, a drop in the ocean of the 1.3bn odd. How many you got Sprydon?

[sprydon] 29/8/2013 20:46

I agree with you. leopard Oil is a means of getting out relatively unscathed. I shall be voting No. I would like to know what the hell has been happening over the last 4-6 months. Certainly the late submission of accounts all looks like a rather convenient way of buying enough time to tell us its shafted.

[adh0] 29/8/2013 17:09

Before suspension MDC had... Intabet + I assumed some cash and plans and purpose and was valued at X £s.

On relisting MDC will have... and be valued at Y £s. Y will be considerably less than X. How much less we do not know yet but it wont be very much as Leopard Oil is indeed nothing more than a "concept" which arguably Intabet was as well so who knows.

The biggest regret in all this is that the whole Intabet merry go round / smoke screen has given the Drummonds long enough to escape the long arm of the law.

[pwhite73] 29/8/2013 16:45

Assuming no new shares are issued on 17/09/13. The opening price would be 100p. That would be the price the shares were suspended at. Are you with me so far.

Now what you to bare in mind is that there is no longer a business here. So when trading starts it is hard to see why the share price will not plummet to reflect the fact that there is no business, no money just debt. Are you still with me.

So before LEO carry out their own dilution the market will carry out its own correction.

The two can happen on the same day.

[nevik2] 29/8/2013 16:00

This company have the same Solicitors and Hanson doing the financial advising as LEO do. Could mean something if you don't believe in coincidences, probably nothing but worth watching to see if any names cross reference in the future.

And they could do with some investment

[bw123] 29/8/2013 15:09

Most new companies when they list for the first time keep the number of shares to a minimum (so they have space for issuing stock and raising future funds), they also have to bring something good to the table or no bug6er would invest with them during a placing to raise funds, nothing to do but see how it pans out.

PS found this on Duedil site:
www.duedil.com/company/07440433/leopard-oil-limited

[nevik2] 29/8/2013 15:05

I can't see it being worth £300. when the dust settles.
The only Leopard Oil I've uncovered is a dormant company, so no idea what finance they have available.
If they come in at £1. a share I'll eat my underpants, even 10p I'll eat my socks.
Unless there is some real big money behind this (could be) it will just bounce along the bottom, just like MDC did.
More information needs to be shed about Leopard Oil to get a real idea of what is going on.
At the moment it could of been a drunken night in the Pub and someone jumps up and says "I know lets make an oil company".

[ryan83] 29/8/2013 10:53

Well, my MDC shareholding has a value next to it now in my share account. Lets hope it resembles something like that value when it relists as LEO!

[ryan83] 29/8/2013 08:20

BW - yes shareholders need more info!

[bw123] 29/8/2013 08:19

Need to wait and see what Leopard bring to the table.....they may walk in with assets and do a placing at £1.

[ryan83] 29/8/2013 08:12

nevik I got 2.5m shares which I reckon will be worth a paltry £300 quid, now do you buy TWL shares (muted home for Intabet) or say no and screw MDC over........

[adh0] 28/8/2013 17:01

What I would like to know is what happened to the hundreds of thousands of £s cash that they had and that they raised?

Will we actually ever see the trading accounts at all since PJ took over in any form since the fact they were overdue seems to have been used as a bit of a smoke screen to disguise we are not seeing anything?

When Intabet arrived it had been years in the making costing hundreds of thousands of pounds (apparantly). Since then it has been more years and more hundreds of thousands of pounds. And we have to show for it... Nothing.

I expect it will be bought by TWL for £1 or similar. Which is legalised theft when you consider it.

[nevik2] 28/8/2013 16:13

So we issue even more shares? This is territory unknown to me.
Do we get to offer LO our shares? Why issue more take ours.