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[exlogicalad] 16/12/2018 15:04

Jaguar Land Rover set to cut thousands of jobs in new year

Up to 5,000 positions to go as Britain’s largest carmaker rolls out £2.5bn cost savings plan

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And there will be not be a job lost in Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Seimens, Renault, Citroen, in Wine and Food etc etc....................What a dipstick you are Minnie, JLR and any UK job losses will be felt across Europe...it's called contagion.

Europe will be injured far more than us unless they have a fair deal.

They realise idiots like you are prime candidates to be worn down by threats. Weak people always are!!!

[montyhedge] 16/12/2018 14:47

Should test the support and psychology important level of 50p, this week. My view.

[az209] 16/12/2018 14:37

Would you like to specify what kind of immigration we need according to you. Who would you like to see let in and who wouldn't you. Be specific and not just a general sweeping statement.

Edited to add, how would you handle the question of benefits to the immigrants and their families?

[minerve] 16/12/2018 14:26

Immigration is needed whether you like it or not. The demographics of our populations give us no choice. If governments over the years - mainly Tories - hadn't made living so expensive as to require two salaries then our populations MAY have coped, but the waves and harmonics of baby boomers make this extremely difficult. We can always be Japan if you want. Immigration can be controlled, it really isn't an EU issue. The government have allowed it to be an EU issue to shift blame.

As for stretched services then you need to blame central government. They have been gradually closing the tap since they were in power. Central government will provide £1.1Bn less to councils next year. Again, it isn't just an immigration issue and it has been very convenient for you lot to be so ignorant so the government can make it so.

Some of you really do need to start reading into these issues properly. Tabloids WILL NOT DO! It takes time, and you have to give it time. No point reading the paper for 10 minutes and then going down the pub or playing golf. Knowing and having wisdom is a vocation!

[k38] 16/12/2018 14:20

The corruption is Brussels is huge, if was up to me I wouldn't give them a penny more. No one knows how they spend people's money.

[excell1] 16/12/2018 14:08

Agreed bountyhunter,not against immigration either,but we are a small island and some would say we are over populated as it is.It makes me laugh when I here that all services including the police,NHS,social services etc. cannot cope these days.No wonder with the large amount of immigration we have seen over the last decade or so.All started incidently under Tony bloody Blair.

[bountyhunter] 16/12/2018 13:12

Another issue to consider is that a significant number of Turkish people have said in a poll that they will head for the UK when Turkey, a country with a large population, joins the the EU. I would do the same if in their position but can we fit them all in given ongoing uncontrolled and unlimited immigration from the EU? I'm not against some immigration but it needs to be controlled as in the majority of countries in the world and treat people from all countries equally.

[mikemichael2] 16/12/2018 13:12

Hey Min, VW to cut 30,000 jobs, but better not mention that, oh and Peogeot to cut 8000 jobs in France, better not mention that either !

[poikka] 16/12/2018 13:11

"How much extra would we need to pay in future years if we stayed in the EU"

As the EU has indicated before and since the Referendum, we would lose our rebate; so £18bn/an plus any budget increase they come up with. Last time we objected to an increase in EU budget we were told that we were "not good Europeans"

[minerve] 16/12/2018 13:05

Brexit isn't for the people. It has just been made to look that way.

[bargainbob] 16/12/2018 12:59

Minerve ,

Be part of the re birth of a nation , one with hope , innovation and progression . All welcome to Scotland let's build it how we want by the people for the people.

[minerve] 16/12/2018 12:43

The truth is for Brexit to work we need a government that knows how to develop business. Neither the Tories or Labour have competence in these areas. I mean this diesel fiasco is just a prime example. Driven by what exactly? I loud-mouthed London Mayor and idiots. The energy policy for both parties is a mess and the current government have implemented a volte-face on that. Not the only volte-face that this government has executed. They are allowing PC idiots to affect our defence business in the ME. If Abbot chimp gets in kiss goodbye to a strong BAE for a while. And if the pacifist chimp gets his own way things get worse. Tories only know how to support residential build and The City. They gave a contract to the Koreans to build some of our naval supply ships FFS. Nothing will change, Brexit or no Brexit. The problem is Brexit demands a smarter government - keep hoping and praying because it ain't going to happen.

[xxxxxy] 16/12/2018 12:37

LEAVE and WTO

[xxxxxy] 16/12/2018 12:36

I am not much into cars myself. trains more my thing. Anyway - interesting.

oldtimer
Posted December 16, 2018 at 6:12 am | Permalink
There are two other issues which preoccupy the industry. One is the pronounced shift in the mix of products sold away from cars and towards SUVs. That at least is a discernible trend even if one that requires significant retooling.

The other is the regulatory driven, and so far incentivised, urge by governments to kill the internal combustion engine and promote electrification as the means of propulsion. No one really has a clue how fast and how far this revolution will go. Manufacturers are having to make fundamental redesign and engineering decisions in their products to cater for this. In doing so they do not know how long governments will offer incentives to consumers to buy electric vehicles (my guess not long) and how fast will the necessary power distribution network grow to support recharging of millions instead of thousands of vehicles.

Then there is the issue of how future vehicle and energy tax regimes are adapted by governments to replace the £billions generated by the internal combustion engine. How quickly will they kill that goose that lays so many golden eggs.

By contrast with these issues Brexit has immediacy but much less significance.

[minerve] 16/12/2018 12:30

bountyhunter 16 Dec '18 - 12:22 - 240163 of 240168

"How much extra would we need to pay in future years if we stayed in the EU given the precarious financial situation of several of it's member states resulting from unserviceable EU loans over several years?"

Who knows? Maybe just as much as we have just bailed out UK banks. Or maybe £10Bn+ that we have thrown into Help To Bung?

They fail, we get damaged whether we are in or out. FACT.

[minerve] 16/12/2018 12:27

Jeremy Hunt looking for a new job. Suck Suck.

[minerve] 16/12/2018 12:26

Yeah, and guess which government has executed a volte-face on promotion of diesel cars? I think they are based in London. LOL

Dear me. You idiots.

[maxk] 16/12/2018 12:26

Jeremy Hunt: UK will 'flourish and prosper' if it walks away from the EU without a deal

[excell1] 16/12/2018 12:25

grahamite
"As I mentioned before, Kent you'd expect. But the Isle of Wight? Lincolnshire/Norfolk/The Wash?"

Those are the area's that have seen mass immigration.You have surely heard of the gang masters in Lincolshire/Norfolk that employ immigrant workers to work on the land.Places like Spalding and Boston are overrun with immigrants.They have changed the very character of these towns.