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[geckotheglorious] 14/6/2021 10:22

jrphoenixw2
Post 17155
"Anything about Lloyds on this thread or do shareholders need to start a new thread and leave all the random talk here?"

Go on then, get things started on Lloyds rather than poncing :)

[xxxxxy] 14/6/2021 09:49

GB News launch night, review: message comes through loud and clear – despite glitches    4/5No sneering, no talking down and no patronising as Andrew Neil's new channel makes its debutByChris Bennion14 June 2021 • 7:01am?Andrew Neil could hardly have picked a more auspicious day to launch GB News. The weather was glorious, England beat Croatia in the Euros (plus Wales and Scotland, variously, are still unbeaten in the tournament) and it was a Sunday in which most Britons will have been feeling pretty chipper. Could Neil's right-leaning, fast-talking live news channel, which aims to take on the leftie, "woke" orthodoxy of mainstream British media, have asked for a better start?Well, yes, frankly. The sound was often out of sync, one presenter suffered a microphone failure, Sir Alan Sugar disappeared one word into his interview and the sets looked as if they had been hastily cobbled together (which, of course, they have been). However, at this early stage the glitches may well have boosted GB News's cause, giving more credence to the idea that they are "disruptors", outsiders taking on the slick establishment. The BBC doesn't have glitches.... Daily Telegraph........ Work in Progress. Well done...

[scruff1] 14/6/2021 08:56

diku
Tend to agree. Lumber in the US has been very high for quite some time. Surprised you use Perkins. Not bothered with them for years. They were ridiculously expensive - not surprised they got into trouble. Maybe theyve improved. At least I own IBST so foot in both camps as it were. Wish I had bought more but there you go - plenty I wish I had bought less :-)

[scruff1] 14/6/2021 08:56

diku
Tend to agree. Lumber in the US has been very high for quite some time. Surprised you use Perkins. Not bothered with them for years. They were ridiculously expensive - not surprised they got into trouble. Maybe theyve improved. At least I own IBST so foot in both camps as it were. Wish I had bought more but there you go - plenty I wish I had bought less :-)

[diku] 14/6/2021 08:28

scruff1...post 34181...obviously there has a been a pent up demand for construction material with the easing of lockdown and going into nice summer weather for construction work ...but I think this is open for mis chief from the supply end as they are calling the shots...release the materials slowly in the process pushes the prices up...look at what is happening with lumbar(wood) prices in USA...

[scruff1] 14/6/2021 08:12

arja
Ive got some sympathy with what you say but the Northern Irish voted to remain as part of the UK. As a remainer I expect you to ignore a democratic vote. Those such as Gina Miller came close to a Brexit form of the IRA. Sturgeon is doing the same in Scotland - the first referendum didnt go her way so lets have another and another until it goes your way then thats it. The EU did it to the RoI. Its seems to be a modern form of disemfranchising the electorate.

[xxxxxy] 14/6/2021 07:59

Exposed: How EU has weaponised peace in N.I. over 1/500th of EU's goods importsIf the EU's Single Market is at risk from 0.2% of imports from N.I. then they're in real trouble?© Facts4EU.Org 2021Facts4EU.Org presents proof the EU's actions can't seriously be about 'integrity of the Single Market'Informing the World about the EU's vindictive 'Northern Ireland Protocol'Part Five of a series of reports demonstrating the EU's true natureThe full series:-Part One - The Protocol itself     |   Part Two - How the EU has threatened peace    |   Part Three - Irish Customs overruled by EU    |   Part Four - UK Customs stopped from solution by EU    |   Part Five - Trade involved is minuscule (this report)In this fifth part of our Northern Ireland Protocol series, Facts4EU.Org lays bare what is perhaps one of the biggest EU distortions of all in this sorry affair.Put simply, "the integrity of the EU Single Market" is NOT at risk from goods crossing the N.I. border. 99.8% of all EU's goods imports do NOT cross the border from Northern Ireland. This is and has always been a bizarre, manufactured, and completely implausible argument used by the EU to punish the UK for leaving, by annexing part of its territory.The strangest thing of all is that the EU have not been completely ridiculed about it throughout the World.Over and over again, EU bureaucrats and EU27 leaders have spoken of the need "to preserve the integrity of the Single Market". They have used this phrase to justify the Northern Ireland Protocol which places Northern Ireland under the EU's laws and effectively separates it from the rest of the United Kingdom, of which it is inherently a part.Is the EU serious about 'the integrity of EU Single Market' because of an N.I. threat?The simple fact is that in 2019 – the last year for which official figures are available - 99.8% of all the EU's goods imports did NOT cross the border from Northern Ireland.The Republic of Ireland's imports from its northern neighbour (now technically a land border for the EU) did not even amount to a rounding error in the totality of the EU's imported goods that year.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYEU's imported goods figures for 2019Value of all goods imported into EU: €1.94 trillion (approx £1,672 billion GBP)Total of goods imported from N.I. : €0.004 trillion (approx £3.5bn GBP)N.I. exports over the Irish border represented only around 1/500th of all EU imports into its Single Market?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org - click to enlargeStatistical notes: We used trade statistics from 2019, as these are the latest available from Northern Ireland's official statistics agency, NISRA. Nevertheless, these show the traffic of goods across the border with the Republic and with the rest of the United Kingdom and were unaffected by Covid-19. We used a 2019 exchange rate of €1.136 to £1.00 and compared with the official total for all EU27 goods imports for 2019 provided by the EU's official statistics agency, Eurostat.In 2019 the UK was still part of the European Union. Despite this, the EU's statistics agency has been removing data from its latest reports, to exclude the UK even when it was still a member. For the statistics in our report today we have removed the UK entirely from the total of the EU's imported goods in 2019. This makes the Northern Ireland numbers truly proportionate to the EU27's total value of imported goods.The simple, basic facts about Northern Ireland's salesThe rest of the United Kingdom is by far Northern Ireland's largest external market, accounting for almost 50% of its external sales of goods. Great Britain is followed by the rest of the non-EU world, on almost 21%.According to the official Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA), Northern Ireland's sales of goods and services in 2019 amounted to £71.9 billion. External sales to the rest of the UK, the Republic of Ireland, the rest of the EU, and the rest of the world totalled £23 billion.The Office for National Statistics states that 78% of N.I.'s external sales are goods. Given that we are only interested in goods crossing the border, we have used this ratio in compiling the data below.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYNorthern Ireland's external sales of goods in 2019Great Britain (UK excl. N.I.) : 49.1%Rest of the world (excl. EU) : 20.9%Republic of Ireland : 19.6%Rest of the EU (26 countries) : 10.5%Source: NISRA report dated 28 April 2021.OBSERVATIONSThe justification used by the EU for effectively annexing part of United Kingdom's sovereign territory and 'ripping up' the Good Friday Agreement (in the words of its surviving architect, Nobel Peace Price winner Lord Trimble), is "to preserve the integrity of the EU Single Market".Who do the EU think they're kidding?The value of the EU's imports of goods crossing the Northern Irish border to the Republic of Ireland, still an EU member, is just 0.2% of the value of all goods imports entering the EU. In accounting terms this is a rounding error.If the EU thinks the integrity of its Single Market is in any way under threat from such a tiny amount of imports, the vast majority of which are in any case covered by a small number of N.I. exporters under the trusted trader scheme, then they really are in trouble.It's high time that this sort of nonsense was called out for what it is. Why pretend to go along with the EU's absurd rationalisations? The EU saw an opportunity under Theresa May's weak Remainer government to make an issue out of nothing, which would divide the United Kingdom – something which she vowed that no British Prime Minister could or would ever do.The Varadkar and Coveney Irish government at the time enthusiastically embraced the EU's plan, seeing its potential to split Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK, move further towards taking Northern Ireland into the Republic, and to curry favour with Brussels.Fortunately it was the British people who rose to the challenge again, having first done so in the 2016 EU Referendum. In 2019 they were finally able to elect an ostensibly pro-Brexit government led by Boris Johnson. Unfortunately that government felt unable to tear up the Withdrawal Agreement and Northern Ireland Protocol, as we urged them to do.Instead they opted for a compromise, faced with a bad situation, and now they must confront the consequences. There is no question that this deal should never have been signed, but equally there is no doubt that the EU is applying the terms of the deal in such a rigid way as to make it completely unworkable.Last week Lord (Dan) Hannan called for the Northern Ireland Protocol to be revoked by the UK in an excellent article in the Telegraph. ("The arrogant EU won't budge an inch. We have no choice but to abolish the Protocol")This has always been Facts4EU.Org's position and once again we urge the Government to do this.?Facts4EU.Org can helpIf the Government acts, they might find it useful to present the evidence in our five-part series to the World. And we are happy to provide all of our background research to them at a very modest cost....

[arja] 14/6/2021 07:49

thickie asa8 never learns and keeps on making false assumptions . I do support Irish reunification which will happen in next 10 years I reckon- quite right too as why should England occupy part of Ireland . Do you approve of Putin occupying part of Ukraine asa8 as you might well be a Putin fan ?? Some brextremists are which shows their belief in DEMOCRACY - NOT !!

[maxk] 14/6/2021 00:33

World saved when hole opens up under Cornwall...

[lefrene] 13/6/2021 20:15

I'm not sure if it's quilted toilet paper or the brown stuff on the said quilted paper. :¬) The word "bull" should be in there somewhere.

[xxxxxy] 13/6/2021 19:47

No hard Irish border ever required - UK Customs agreed with Irish Customs in 2017"No border infrastructure needed between N.I. and Ireland under any circumstances" – Head of HMRC?© Facts4EU.Org 2021UK Parliament was told in 2017 by HMRC it was prevented from agreeing N.I. border solution with Irish colleaguesInforming the World about the EU's vindictive 'Northern Ireland Protocol'Part Four of a series of reports demonstrating the EU's true natureThe full series:-Part One - The Protocol itself     |   Part Two - How the EU has threatened peace    |   Part Three - Irish Customs overruled by EU    |   Part Four - UK Customs stopped from solution by EU (this report)    |   Part Five - Trade involved is miniscule (coming)In Part Three of this series yesterday, Facts4EU.Org published the testimony of the heads of the Irish Revenue to the committee of their own parliament, the Dáil, four years ago in 2017. This showed that according to Irish Customs:Simple solutions were available without the need for the Northern Ireland Protocol, andNo infrastructure ("a hard border") would be required, andIrish Customs were prevented from speaking to their British counterpartsToday we publish the damning testimony of the UK Customs boss, backing up his Irish colleaguesIn 2017 Sir Jon Thompson was Chief Executive and Permanent Secretary at HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC). On Wednesday 29 November 2017 he gave formal testimony to the UK Parliament's Exiting the European Union Committee, chaired by arch-Remainer Hilary Benn MP.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYHMRC testimony to UK Parliament, 2017No infrastructure between N.I. and Ireland is required under any circumstancesHMRC boss tells it like it is over Irish questionNew customs system was on schedule and would be online two months before the first planned BrexitHMRC were not allowed to discuss new arrangements with Irish and French customsUK and Irish Customs in broad agreement back in 2017, then stopped from implementingSir Jon's testimony supports that of his Irish colleagues and is damning for the EU and for the Irish government.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYKEY EXCERPTS – HEAD OF HMRC – POST-BREXIT CUSTOMS & BORDERSSir Jon Thompson giving evidence to the Exiting the European Union Committee, Wed 29 Nov 2017. Testimony was given on the basis that the entire UK (including Northern Ireland) would be OUT of the Single Market, and OUT of the Customs UnionOn the new Customs Declaration ServiceSir Jon Thompson, Head of HMRC: "Actually the project is completely on track. We have every confidence it will be completed by January 2019. The project has met all of its milestones in the current year. Traders will begin the migration to the new system in July 2018."On the Transition PeriodQ: "Is it your anticipation that things will just carry on as they are at the moment?"Sir Jon Thompson, Head of HMRC: "Yes."On there being no need for a hard border (nor the Northern Ireland Protocol)Q: "The government wants no border and no infrastructure - how can the government's policy be achieved?"Sir Jon Thompson, Head of HMRC: "The assumption is there's a negotiated settlement with the EU in which the highly streamlined customs arrangement is adopted. We stay in the common transit convention, there's mutual recognition of the authorised economic operator scheme, and so on." [Mr Thompson refers the Committee to the government papers issued on this question in August 2017.]"Because of the unique Northern Ireland/Ireland situation you need to add on three additional things which are set out in the NI paper.""First of all to maximise the authorised economic operator scheme, secondly to seek a derogation for small traders because there needs to be a recognition that the border area is very much a local economy in which traders cross the border on a regular basis, and thirdly that we would move to a system of self-assessment, which is set out in the Union Customs Code and which is very much the direction of travel for the European Union.""We believe that would cover the vast majority of trade between Ireland and Northern Ireland. If there were any checks they would be risk and intelligence based checks and they would take place well away from the legal border."Q: "In the event of no deal, would it be possible to achieve no border infrastructure?"Sir Jon Thompson, Head of HMRC: "It's possible for the government to make a unilateral decision of what it will do at the border, which would be in line to my answer to your previous question.""We do not believe we require any infrastructure between Northern Ireland and Ireland under any circumstances."?On the EU preventing the UK and Irish Customs organisations from implementing solutionsQ: "Have you had any dealings with the Irish about this?"Sir Jon Thompson, Head of HMRC: "There are no formal conversations with either the French or the Irish. We cannot talk to Customs or taxation management organisations in either of those countries. There are only informal conversations with the Belgians and the Dutch."Q: "From everything you've said, this isn't much of an issue, or am I missing something? From our point of view, there's no reason why it can't be business as usual?"Sir Jon Thompson, Head of HMRC: "That is correct. That is correct. That is the consistent advice we have given ministers."The above is the formal testimony of the then Chief Executive and Permanent Secretary at HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC), Sir Jon Thompson, in November 2017 to a committee of the UK Parliament. Facts4EU.Org has repeatedly tried to get this into the public domain.OBSERVATIONSBoth the EU and the Irish Varadkar government carry a heavy responsibilityIt's clear that both the Irish and British Customs organisations were very frustrated at not being allowed to speak to each other. It's equally clear that they shared the same pragmatic approach in implementing workable solutions which would still avoid a hard border and would have avoided any 'Protocol' of the type insisted upon by the EU.When reviewing the testimony of the Irish Customs which we provided yesterday, and the British Customs which we're providing today, it must be remembered that these people are public servants. They were unable to say what they truly felt. We have watched – and had to transcribe laboriously – their testimony to their respective parliaments. Their frustration is plain to see.If they had been allowed by the EU and by the Dublin government to get on with their jobs, working together to sort out the simplest solutions, they would have put in place a soft border plan almost faster than you can say "British bangers barbecued in Bangor".Instead, these highly experienced and willing public servants were stopped in their tracks by ideologically-based diktats from Brussels and Dublin.The N.I. border issue is a damning symbol of the rot at the heart of the entire EU 'Projekt'For years Facts4EU.Org has provided evidence on the whole question of the Northern Ireland border, the EU's Protocol, and the sheer insanity of what should have been a non-issue being blown up up into something which now threatens peace in Northern Ireland and which seriously risks the fragmentation of the United Kingdom.Only a dysfunctional and bullying cabal in the heart of Brussels could have dreamt this up, with the aid of an Irish political class seeing an opportunity to seize part of the territory of the United Kingdom for itself.In Part Five of this series we will put the final nail in the coffin of the EU's Northern Ireland ProtocolThe EU consistently says that it is acting "to protect the integrity of the Single Market". Utter nonsense, as we shall prove in our final report. Can you help us by sponsoring this series? We badly need funding to continue. We are a 'not for profit' team (we make a loss) and any donation goes towards the actual work, not plush London offices, lunch or taxi expenses, or other luxuries of some organisations. Nor do we ask you for further donations if you donate once - we just hope that you keep supporting us.

[arja] 13/6/2021 19:36

k38 .
I repeat below what IO said . So do you know ANY REMAINER who would rule out staying in single market and customs union ??? FFS , ALL remainers wanted to stay in !!
So your comment is made without using your little brain or is that too much to expect??


guess you think TM was a remainer but she was in fact a brexiteer, If you disagree , do you really think a remainer would rule out staying in single market and customs union ?? OF COURSE NOT and TM's reason for living was to end FOM and that was only possible if we left the EU ! This might be too much for some brextremists on this thread to comprehend .

[asa8] 13/6/2021 19:31

You can blame HS2 there taking all the aggregates I’m allowed 10 bags of cement at a time in Travis Perkins they’ve even had to hide it

[diku] 13/6/2021 18:44

While the Politicians are having a jolly good time...building sand is running out...demand is exceeding supply...went to B&Q no building sand...Wicks no building sand...Building merchants no building sand...this is the state of play...

[diku] 13/6/2021 18:41

Post 341800...we do some youngsters wear the trousers like that...are they trying to get rid of the smell...they don't even walk properly...

[sentimental rules] 13/6/2021 18:05

A bit harsh

[xxxxxy] 13/6/2021 16:42

Sadly. It seems...Boris = Adolf