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[minerve 2] 17/12/2020 14:21

Oh, I love cartoons, post some more.

Have you got Steamboat Willie?

[mikemichael2] 17/12/2020 14:19

A typical day at the M2 home!!!

[johnkettleyistheweatherman] 17/12/2020 14:18

the benefits we get are seeing your crying ugly mug every day


that's all we voted for

hahahahahahaha

[mikemichael2] 17/12/2020 13:37

OK, well, you can 'post yourself bonkers' all over Christmas, I won't be even looking in. Sad git.




Think M2's a bit cross!! CAPITAL rant!!!

[ball deap] 17/12/2020 13:30

Stay the hell long ! !

[k38] 17/12/2020 13:30

M2Do you get a per post a pay cut..? Lol..... .;))

[minerve 2] 17/12/2020 13:27

He is going to sell you numpties down the proverbial...

You deserve it too because you are all so stupid and gullible.

[minerve 2] 17/12/2020 13:26

Boris is a COWARD.

[xxxxxy] 17/12/2020 13:21

The most fundamental issue is that of freedom. If there is a 'trade deal' – and we are now 99% sure there will be – will it compromise the freedom of the UK Parliament to legislate as it sees fit, without having to follow EU laws, directives, and regulations in any way?The Establishment's claims are wrong – and misleadingFor years the Establishment - including the big businesses represented by the CBI and their political supporters - have sought to frame the debate about Brexit on what they claim would be the 'cliff edge' of an exit by the UK from the EU on 'WTO terms'. This type of exit is what Prime Minister Boris Johnson now refers to as leaving on "Australian terms".The public has been given the impression that half of our business is in peril from a 'no deal' Brexit. This is not the case, as can be seen from the official figures we have uncovered. And the percentage of the UK's GDP represented by exports to the EU is very small, as we shall show from official figures in our next article.Is a trade deal with the EU worth the sacrifice of British freedoms and UK sovereignty?We do not think so.

[johnkettleyistheweatherman] 17/12/2020 13:20

lol

love getting drunk on minerves salty tears

keep em coming moron

[xxxxxy] 17/12/2020 13:19

Is a trade deal with the EU worth the loss of our freedoms?The EU has everything to gain and the UK has a great deal to lose?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org - click to enlargeWe put this 'trade deal' into context: only 2.8% of all UK employers export goods to the EUYesterday in the EU Parliament in Brussels, the EU Commission President Frau Ursula von der Leyen gave a speech to MEPs in which she talked about a UK-EU trade deal. She sounded very positive about the prospects, despite No.10 seeking to downplay the possibility of a compromise deal being in the offing in the next few days.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYEU Commission President's speech yesterday"I can tell you that there is a path to an agreement now. The path may be very narrow but it is there...""The good news is that we have found a way forward on most issues...""... two issues still remain outstanding, you know them: the level playing field and fisheries.""On state aid, we have made progress on... guarantees of domestic enforcement, and the possibility to autonomously remedy the situation where needed.""On standards, we have agreed a strong mechanism of non-regression – that is a big step forward – and this is to ensure that our common high labour, social and environmental standards will not be undercut.""I am also glad to report that issues linked to governance, by now, are largely being resolved."- EU Commission President Frau von der Leyen, Brussels, address to EU Parliament, 16 Dec 2020We comment on Frau von der Leyen's words in our 'Observations' below.Is a trade deal with the EU worth the sacrifice of British freedoms?Over the course of the last five years the narrative from the Remainer Establishment has given the British people – and most of its MPs – entirely the wrong idea about the UK's trade with the EU. Below we present some summary facts, all researched from official sources.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYFrom official Government and HMRC figures for 201999.3% of all UK businesses do NOT export goods to the EUEven after excluding sole traders, the picture is similar97.2% of the UK's 1.4 million employers do NOT export goods to the EUJust 39,000 UK employers export goods to the EUThat's only 2.8% of all employers – and yet they're dominating the EU trade deal debateMore than 5 million UK businesses neither import from, nor export to, the EUThe percentage of all UK businesses exporting goods to the EU?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org - click to enlargeThe percentage of all UK employers (excluding sole traders) exporting goods to the EU?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org - click to enlargeThis is about actual UK businesses and the real people working in themOur investigation shows that only a tiny number of the UK's businesses (39,000 out of a total of 5.9 million) actually sell goods to the EU27. Even stripping out all sole traders from the total number of UK businesses, this still leaves 1.4 million employers. 39,000 is a very small proportion (2.8%) of these.Yes, it's true that the UK businesses selling goods to the EU tend to be larger, and therefore tend to employ more people per business, and to export in higher volumes. Nevertheless, they are relatively small in number and will most certainly have the resources to adapt quickly to a new trading environment. It remains the case that the vast majority of UK businesses will be unaffected by any new EU export arrangements.There are only 19,800 businesses in the UK employing 100 people or more. This leaves 5,848,000 businesses who employ (or self-employ) the rest of us.OBSERVATIONSThe alarm bells go offAs veteran EU-watchers, alarm bells sounded across the Facts4EU office during Frau von der Leyen's speech yesterday. Most of the topics she spoke about are arcane to most people. In our edition ahead of her speech to the EU Parliament we attempted to illuminate just one of them, with the story of an imaginary widget manufacturer in the Midlands.The most fundamental issue is that of freedom. If there is a 'trade deal' – and we are now 99% sure there will be – will it compromise the freedom of the UK Parliament to legislate as it sees fit, without having to follow EU laws, directives, and regulations in any way?The Establishment's claims are wrong – and misleadingFor years the Establishment - including the big businesses represented by the CBI and their political supporters - have sought to frame the debate about Brexit on what they claim would be the 'cliff edge' of an exit by the UK from the EU on 'WTO terms'. This type of exit is what Prime Minister Boris Johnson now refers to as leaving on "Australian terms".The public has been given the impression that half of our business is in peril from a 'no deal' Brexit. This is not the case, as can be seen from the official figures we have uncovered. And the percentage of the UK's GDP represented by exports to the EU is very small, as we shall show from official figures in our next article.Is a trade deal with the EU worth the sacrifice of British freedoms and UK sovereignty?We do not think so.Brexit Facts4EU.Org continues to work behind the scenes - in addition to what you read on our website and in social media - to pressure the Government and MPs to rescind and void the Withdrawal Agreement, and to leave the EU on 31 December on WTO terms.We badly need your help to continue this work into the final battle campaign. Readers who have not already donated to fund our work (which involves no limos, no secretaries, no long lunches – unlike the EU Commission) could do so in a two shakes of a Juncker martini. Quick, secure, and confidential donation links are below this article. We only survive on public donations – unlike some Remainer organisations no foreign billionaires have ever funded us, sadly. Come to that, no domestic billionaires have ever funded us either...Please help us out with a donation today, so we can keep fighting for a free, independent, and sovereign United Kingdom.[ Sources: HMRC | BEIS (UK Dept for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy) | EU Commission ] Politicians and journalists can contact us for details, as ever.Brexit Facts4EU.Org, Thur 17 Dec 2020