Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[mikemichael2] 06/12/2020 17:49

portside1 - 01 Dec 2020 - 15:04:34 - 14107 of 14232 Lloyds Bank (LLOY) 'On Topic only' - Thread - LLOY

Just keep adding you can not lose

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[portside1] 06/12/2020 17:44

We want them down sell sell sell get these down

[cobourg1] 06/12/2020 17:25

"Yes a good signal"

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Or for those of us sceptical of technical analysis it merely means that the share price has risen relatively quickly from the 20's to 39p, taking the moving averages with it.

Even I could have told you that and I'm reckoned to be totally past it and half cracked by my children.

As the Blessed Saint Warren of Buffet tells us:

"The purpose of technical analysis is to make astrology look respectable."

But each of us must proceed towards damnation in our own peculiar way.

[utrickytrees] 06/12/2020 17:09

Farage will be spending his pension in his own pub, the Suplicant European in leadenhall market...superb!

[k38] 06/12/2020 16:56

F1 (without Hamilton.....;)) start if any of you are interested and forgot about it.

[minerve 2] 06/12/2020 16:56

Farage only needs to put a pint in his hand and voila! He is your drinking buddy.

So many gullible and simple-minded folk around.

[xxxxxy] 06/12/2020 16:51

EUSSR aka German Empire. No DealWTOLiberty

[xxxxxy] 06/12/2020 16:50

Dear Supporter,The speed at which The Brexit Party was formed last year was almost as astonishing as the success it had in 2019.The idea that in just a few short months a new political party could be registered, tens of thousands of supporters enlisted, donors found and campaigns readied, all in advance of winning a national election was unthinkable to anybody - until we went at did it!Having won the European elections, removed a hapless Prime Minister, changed the political landscape of the country and delivered a pro-Brexit majority in Parliament (saving Brexit in the process), we are now ready for the next chapter in the evolution of our party.Changing Politics for Good was always going to need more than just Brexit.As is ever the case, the unsung heroes from our efforts last year were the thousands of campaigners who gave up their time, energies and efforts to help deliver our collective message to the people of Britain. I will say it again because I can never say it enough - to you all, thank you.Now we are committed to building a fresh structure for our rebranded party. We need a strong foundation that can carry our campaigns and candidates forward into future elections as we set our plans in anticipation of next May and beyond. Today, I'm writing to ask you to be a part of that structure.We believe that the first crucial step to building that successful structure is to form a team of County Campaign Co-ordinators (CCC) across the country. These voluntary roles will be an essential conduit through which our Head Office team can pass information to grassroots campaigners and most importantly, will enable those same campaigners to feed back first-hand accounts of how our campaigns are progressing. Alongside this vital communications role, our CCC's will be given access to campaigning materials for candidates in their area and will be tasked with ensuring that our resources are targeted to ensure maximum effectiveness.APPLY TO BE A COUNTY CAMPAIGN CO-ORDINATOROne of the truly wonderful things about our journey together last year was that we were able to combine hugely experienced political campaigners with supporters who had never been actively involved in politics before. We hope that the same will be true this time. Any supporter is welcome to put their name forward for a role with the confidence of knowing that everybody will get the training and support they need to make a success of the position.The Brexit Party is growing into the next phase of its existence and your involvement will be crucial to helping with that growth.Apply now, help us to take a stand and in the process, be a part of building an election-winning party for the future.With best wishes,?Richard Tice

[xxxxxy] 06/12/2020 16:47

My fourth observation is that, once we've left, 85pc of the world economy will be outside the EU – including the world's fastest-growing and most populous economies..... As negotiations with the European Union enter their endgame, Britain's anti-Brexit brigade is out in force. Anything Brussels wants is reasonable and justified. The UK's conditions, of course, are driven by ignorance, nationalism and spite.Whatever the unreconciled say, Britain is leaving the EU's single market and customs union, by law, at the end of this year. But whether we will strike a free trade deal with Brussels, or default to trading on World Trade Organization rules, remains entirely unclear.Last week, Michel Barnier said one of his negotiating team had tested positive for Covid. A similar thing happened in March, when the EU's chief negotiator himself contracted the virus.We were at a critical juncture, making real progress, perhaps just days from a deal.But with the suspension of face-to-face talks, and given time needed for the ratification process to play out across EU parliaments, with the deadline fast approaching it really could go either way.As such, I'll stick to observations rather than predictions – the first of which is that a trade deal is clearly the best outcome.UK exports to the EU amount to 8pc of GDP – and if they continue largely tariff-free, under a reciprocal agreement, there will obviously be fewer disruptions for both sides.As lockdown lifts, and world trade reboots, a UK/ EU trade deal would help foster growth across all parts of Europe.Yet WTO terms is no disaster. Britain already trades under such rules with the US – our biggest single-country trading partner, accounting for a fifth of UK exports.The US and China sell hundreds of billions of dollars of exports to the EU each year using WTO rules – the framework, in fact, for the majority of all trade across the globe.For many years, UK trade with the EU has been in deficit, and falling as a share of our total overseas commerce – despite the much-vaunted benefits of the single market and customs union. Britain's non-EU trade, in contrast, generates a surplus.Having grown much faster than UK-EU trade for some time, it now accounts for a clear majority of the goods and services we sell abroad. Such non-EU trade is conducted largely under WTO rules.If we do leave with no trade deal, UK exporters to the EU will pay WTO tariffs – but they are generally very low. And the Government has indicated it will use part of the £10bn or so annual EU membership fee, plus incoming tariff revenues, to compensate UK exporters in sectors where tariffs are higher.My third observation is that, with full Brexit almost upon us, deal or no deal, the Government should be talking much more about the opportunities Britain gains outside the EU.We are "getting Brexit done" not just because the majority voted to live in a sovereign country that controls its own borders – as do other liberal democracies like Canada and Australia. There are also major economic advantages, which reinforce key parts of the Government's broader agenda, particularly now.Stark regional imbalances in the impact of lockdown, and Covid itself, make "levelling up" more urgent than ever. Brexit should be at the heart of such initiatives.Outside the EU, Britain will regain control over billions of pounds of "cohesion fund" spending, which can tackle regional inequalities.Free of Brussels' stringent state aid rules, the Government can selectively take stakes in industries of the future, not least artificial intelligence and biotech.Freeports and enterprise zones, low-tax jurisdictions bringing investment and prosperity to coastal towns and other deprived areas, should be at the forefront of addressing regional imbalances – and, again, are only possible outside the EU.And what about research and development tax credits, and other post-Brexit regulatory tweaks, again with a regional focus?While levelling up will cost money, such efforts should extend way beyond spending, emphasising infrastructure projects that harness long-term private capital, tax breaks and, above all, vigorous supply-side reforms – all of which are far easier after Brexit.The latest government modelling suggests that, under no deal, the UK economy would be 3 percentage points smaller in 15 years' time than it otherwise would have been.That's compared to the outcome under the kind of "skinny" free trade deal being negotiated – no tariffs on goods, but some new border checks and restrictions on services trade. As such, the no-deal negative growth impact in any one year is set to be tiny.And, according to the Office for Budget Responsibility, any possible implications are anyway "dwarfed by the uncertainty surrounding the underlying path of future productivity growth".So let's use the freedoms of Brexit to implement the supply-side measures – on tax, regulation and infrastructure – that would so clearly boost productivity, more than offsetting the miniscule growth downsides if we do end up with no deal.My fourth observation is that, once we've left, 85pc of the world economy will be outside the EU – including the world's fastest-growing and most populous economies.While EU trade agreements with other nations cover 11pc of UK trade, we've already "rolled over" deals accounting for almost three quarters of that, including sizeable economies like South Korea, South Africa and Japan. The rest are close – and will come.Plus, we have a good chance of striking agreements with the world's very largest players, not least the US, trade deals that have always eluded Brussels, given intra-EU conflicts.Finally, imagine if we were in the EU now. Earlier this year, even before Covid, Italy was again in deep financial trouble, stifled by the high currency eurozone straitjacket.Another bond market crisis loomed – resulting in a €750bn (£670bn) rescue fund, paid for by all EU members.So had we remained, Britain would now be contributing mightily to a vast bailout preventing the implosion of the eurozone – which we are not even part of. And with Brussels now sanctioned to borrow on the EU's behalf, the UK would have taken a huge step towards EU fiscal integration – which repeated polls show almost no British voters want to take.Whatever the one-off complexities of leaving the EU, the long-term, enduring complexities of staying would be far more acute.... Liam Halligan... Daily Telegraph

[xxxxxy] 06/12/2020 16:46

BWPosted December 6, 2020 at 8:32 am | PermalinkThe EU want a level playing field. Who will adjudicate, the ECJ. They want an agreement on fish. Who do you think the EU want to adjudicate on that. That's right. The ECJ. They want to control state subsidies, and yes it will be the ECJ again. Once the ECJ has a say in anything whatsoever we will be shackled and the EU can use this to punish the UK for ever. Boris must not give in. I am just frustrated that he is still talking. He must not give in on any of the red lines. Any agreement will come at a huge price.

[pillion] 06/12/2020 16:41

Jordaggy
Pillion, what does it signify? is it good?

Yes a good signal
Both values cross in an upward direction
dyor

[diku] 06/12/2020 16:34

It is becoming tactical voting in general elections...

[careful] 06/12/2020 16:18

Why does Redwood think that he knows why people voted leave?
There are many reasons, mostly because people thought they would be better off.

Another myth, Boris won the general election because we wanted to 'get Brexit done'

People such as myself, remainers, voted for Boris to avoid the disaster of an extreme socialist Corbyn government.

[minerve 2] 06/12/2020 16:13

"You write like an idiot on here but well on other threads."

Morons are very good at quickly reaching the lowest common denominator when together.

[alphorn] 06/12/2020 15:46

Very recently on this thread - against a majority view. Read my thread and you may pick some ideas. You write like an idiot on here but well on other threads. The reason that you not filtered.

[poikka] 06/12/2020 15:46

I see that Millwall fans have had enough of the taking of the knee, me too.

Dose anyone here think that it still serves any purpose - if it ever did?

[poikka] 06/12/2020 15:43

When did you have an original opinion, Alps?

[alphorn] 06/12/2020 15:36

No risk of a new 'clan' of non-unionists doing the same today under a different guise?

[portside1] 06/12/2020 15:27

I sold my shares on Friday looking to buy back under 37