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[xxxxxy] 25/11/2020 15:11

Honestly. Politics.

[xxxxxy] 25/11/2020 15:09

Barnier orders Frost to budge or EU chief will CANCEL crunch Brexit meeting in LondonMICHEL Barnier has threatened to call off Brexit trade talks in London this week unless Boris Johnson caves in on fishing.By JOE BARNES, BRUSSELS CORRESPONDENT... Daily Express... If true. Excellent.No DealWTOBest in the long term. Honest. Honesty is the only solution.No. No. No. DealWTO

[mr.elbee] 25/11/2020 15:08

But Biden will be soon in jail for criminal conspiracy.. Would it not be more sensible to write to the current President,and refuse to be associated with a doddery old crook?

[xxxxxy] 25/11/2020 15:06

ChrisSPosted November 25, 2020 at 9:31 am | PermalinkBoris should write to Mr Biden on behalf of the British government and confirm that the United Kingdom will NEVER erect any form of physical border in Ireland. The letter should be published and a copy sent to every member of Congress and the Senate.It will therefore not be the United Kingdom that breaks the Good Friday Agreement.If there is going to be any form of border, it will be one erected by the EU and any adverse consequences will be their responsibility..

[xxxxxy] 25/11/2020 14:51

"Who needs a trade deal with the EU?" - A Brexit Facts4EU.Org reportLatest EU report shows EU trade deals overall are of little value?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2020EU trade from its Free Trade Agreements barely increased last year, compared to global tradeIn the EU Commission's report published on 12 November, the EU claims that "The 4th Annual Report on the Implementation of the European Union's Trade Agreements in 2019 shows the benefits of our expanding global trade network."We look at the overall position, based on this latest EU Commission report.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYEU goods exports in 2019 - to FTA countries and to all countries globallyGrowth in EU goods exports to all countries globally: 3.5%Growth in EU goods exports to countries covered by 'the 36 major preferential EU trade agreements': 4.1%Difference in growth between EU's trade deal countries and all countries globally: 0.6%Growth in UK goods exports to all non-EU countries last year: +14.1%?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org - click to enlargeSources: EU Commission | UK Department for International Trade | UK Office for National StatisticsEU's growth in exports is small compared to the UKOne of the jobs of the EU Commission, which has sole and exclusive responsibility for negotiating trade deals for the EU's member countries, should be to grow exports. As an EU member the UK was prevented by the EU from negotiating its own trade deals and was forced to rely on the work of the Commission.The EU Commission is careful to talk about 'trade', meaning imports and exports. When focusing in on exports, the position for the EU is even worse than its headline figures.The EU's trade agreements make negligible difference to exportsThe report talks about its "36 major preferential EU trade agreements" (FTAs) covering 65 countries – not the 100 it continuously boasts of having. Incredibly the report says that EU exports to these major FTA countries only grew by 0.6% more than the EU's exports to all the countries around the world.To put this into context, the UK's goods exports to non-EU countries grew by 14.1% last year, as British exporters started looking globally instead of focusing on the EU27 markets.What about trade in services, the UK's area of strength?Unfortunately, the EU's performance with its FTA partners in the matter of services – which represent approximately 80% of the UK economy – was actually worse than its growth in services globally."For trade in services the latest figures are those for 2018. Trade in services with the 65 partners covered by this report grew by 1.7% in 2018, slower than total EU trade in services (+2.3%)"- EU Commission report, 12 November 2020Was a UK-EU trade deal mentioned in this latest report? No.The UK is the EU27's second-largest export market after the United States. It is 60% bigger than the third-largest market, China.Despite this the EU's report contains no mention of the possibility of a trade deal with the United Kingdom. It could be argued that the report relates to actual trade deals in place, but for there to be no mention of the EU's second-largest export market is a little surprising.OBSERVATIONSAs ever, the EU has singled out some examples of success in its report. Overall, however, the total figures are uninspiring to say the least.For there to be only a 0.6% difference between export growth rates with FTA partners compared to the EU's export growth rate globally shows how disappointing the EU Commission's performance has been.Furthermore, for the growth in the export of the EU's services to FTA partners to be significantly lower than the its growth in the export of services globally, just goes to show how the EU has paid scant regard to the UK's key area of economic strength.Canada and Japan deal templates not on offer to the UKInterestingly, two of the trade deals which the EU singles out in its report are not available as templates for a deal with the UK.The EU's trade deals with Canada and Japan are regularly trumpeted by the EU Commission. If these deals are so wonderful, why isn't the EU prepared to offer anything similar to the UK? Things become even stranger when considering the fact that the UK's Dept for International Trade has just agreed 'rollover deals' with both of these countries.Close, but no cigar...Earlier this year the EU suddenly came up with the bizarre notion of 'geographical proximity' to justify its refusal to agree a normal trade deal with the UK. This is despite the fact that the then EU Council President Donald Tusk held out the offer of a Canada-style deal when persuading the UK Government to sign up to the EU's abominable Withdrawal Agreement.As soon as the WA was signed by Boris Johnson on 24 January 2020, it seemed that a Canada-style trade deal was off the table. Apparently the EU had suddenly noticed that the UK was geographically close to the continent. Why that should then be a barrier to continuing the existing zero-tariff trading arrangements remains a mystery.Urgent - we need you nowIf we are to see this thing through to the end, after almost five years of seven day-a-week work, we need your help.The level of our donations has dropped significantly in the last month, probably partly due to the impact of the measures the Government has taken regarding COVID-19. These kind donations are currently at an unsustainably low level. We know that these are difficult times for many people but we have to ask any reader who can, to support us with a donation today so that we can continue our fight for a free, independent, and sovereign United Kingdom as we approach the end game. Quick, secure, and confidential donation methods are linked to below this article and you will receive a very warm email from a member of our team. Thank you so much.[ Sources: EU Commission | UK Department for International Trade | UK Office for National Statistics ] Politicians and journalists can contact us for details, as ever.Brexit Facts4EU.Org, Thur 26 Nov 2020

[mr.elbee] 25/11/2020 14:32

war lost... only skirmish battles remain

Dig the priest's hiding place now

[alphorn] 25/11/2020 14:20

max - have a look. The question remains 'how will it all get paid'?

[minerve 2] 25/11/2020 14:17

Tis the season to be jolly careful.
Build back better.
Hands face space.

[misterbluesky] 25/11/2020 14:09

Utterly meaningless slogans...

take back control

Brexit means Brexit

leave means leave

no deal is better than a bad deal

the will of the people

get Brexit done

WTO terms

Article 24

Oven ready deal?

The easiest trade deal in history?
...

Any more ?

[maxk] 25/11/2020 14:02

Cheers Alp.

[maxk] 25/11/2020 13:56

Give us the skinny Alp.

Only just got in.

[alphorn] 25/11/2020 13:52

No posts for 20mins. Result of shock from Sunak's numbers?

How is the recovery fund going?

[mr.elbee] 25/11/2020 13:30

I hope you are right

[k38] 25/11/2020 13:30

The awnser Boris give to the Spanish MEPThey are illusions They're not the solutions they promised to be.The truth is the answer was here all the time BREXIT.. I love you and hope you love me Don't cry for me Argentina.....

[mr.elbee] 25/11/2020 13:27

he will... corporate manslaughter and class action law suits are being prepared right now.

This, and only this,..is why they are tightening things up...so that in the summer 2021 no statistician can prove their lockdowns were fake,one way or another.... too much time will have elapsed, and the non existent covid cannot be traced in its inevitable demise.

and the Great British Public will be totally on side, so the question will be this..
!" Why are those nasty lawyer bods attacking our Big Brother who saved us from Covid!"?

Can you see what the relentless destruction of honesty,family values ,pride in a job well done...by the political and media classes..has done?.

The culprits for covid can be spotted now...

but we will be unable to track them by next summer.

[minerve 2] 25/11/2020 13:23

Quick thinker this IDS guy, isn't he!

I could have told him that only about a decade ago!

ROFLMAO!

[minerve 2] 25/11/2020 13:22

"Just watched Ian Duncan Smith talk about the folly of going all electric for vehicles and it made a lot of sense."


WOW!

What an oracle IDS is!

LOL!