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[xxxxxy] 25/11/2020 18:11

Quick Reminder...Why we voted leaveBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: MARCH 23, 2018On 23rd June 2016 17.4 million voters told Parliament we should leave the EU.Leave voters voted to take back control.We voted to take back control of our money, our laws and our borders.We voted to be a sovereign people again.The overarching aim is to restore our freedomsTo become self governing as we used to beWe wish our Parliaments to frame our lawsTo levy and spend out taxesTo make our borders safeTo award the precious gift of citizenship to those we choose to inviteWe did not vote in the belief that future Parliaments will always be wiseNor that they will always get it rightWe voted to restore powers to Parliament because it is our ParliamentWe can lobby and influence itWe can dismiss it and replace the MPs when they no longer please.I find it surprising that some find it difficult to understand this overriding wishFor it is based on our long standing pursuit of freedomIt springs from our historyThe history of the UK is the story of the long march of every man and every woman to the voteThe story of asserting the rule of law against all, however mighty.We prize the gift of freedom under the law for all on an equal basisWe share an aversion to slaveryA dislike of military ruleA resistance to arbitrary governmentA rejection of the patronising errors of elitesA distaste for overmighty bureaucracies cramping our freedomsA belief that we should be free to do whatever we please unless the laws prevents itThe signposts to democracy run through Magna Carta to the first ParliamentsFrom the 1660 settlement to the Glorious RevolutionFrom the Great Reform Act to the triumph of the suffragettesWe carelessly lost some of these freedoms,casting away much of the power of our vote and voiceby passing powers to the European UnionWe allowed the EU to impose laws we did not wantTo levy taxes we disagreed withAnd to spend our money as they saw fitBrexit is designed to recall those lost powers

[xxxxxy] 25/11/2020 18:09

EUSSR = not in good faith.BULLYING = not in good faith.Bullying is coercion.So.No DealWTO

[xxxxxy] 25/11/2020 18:06

Ed MPosted November 25, 2020 at 1:45 pm | Permalink@Sir John,The UK has to start making more more quality high-tech and other things, leading to 1) Higher Skills 2) Higher Wages 3) Higher Productivity / Higher Work Satisfaction 4) Higher Employment 5) Higher Exports 6) Higher sense of patriotism about British Brands 7) And most importantly, high quality services based around quality high-tech and other things.And then you can base even more high quality services around these quality brands. IBM used to be primarily a high-quality hardware company building servers. Now it's primarily a high-quality services company – but with their services based on the strength of their hardware (and software) products.Government needs to:1) Help in developing Cambridge as Europe's Silicon Valley (US government played an important role in development of California's Silicon Valley)2) Doing lots of creative things and some financial incentives to bring on the high tech entrepreneurs of the future3) Do more to get more kids coding – this is a great way of getting young entrepreneurs into creating new software – which leads to development of hardware – and services based around high tech productsReply?Ed MPosted November 25, 2020 at 1:50 pm | PermalinkLowering taxes isn't enough. Too much – and it just leads to boom and bust and people selling off UK assets.We need to get people more invested in their jobs by helping to create more high quality British Brands that people can really rally behind and get involved with.There's lots of evidence that money is only one important reason for job satisfaction. Actually, enjoying what you do is also key. And key here is being involved in a company that actually makes things (high quality things – not tat).Also, we need to look at creating the British BWMs, Mercedes, Audis and so on of the future. This would be HUGE for economy (based on the gist of the arguments laid out here).Financial Services is of course important and always will be. But we also have to diversify our economy. And into areas which really raise productivity / exports and so on.

[xxxxxy] 25/11/2020 18:02

The EUSSR is about what it cannot do.The UK is about what it can do.Big philosophical difference. UK is Outward and Global and Confident and Welcoming. EUSSR is insular and parochial and insecure and bullying. Just too different. No No No Deal WTO

[misterbluesky] 25/11/2020 17:34

Sorry didn't think this will upset you !

Utterly meaningless slogans...

take back control

Brexit means Brexit

leave means leave

no deal is better than a bad deal

the will of the people

get Brexit done

WTO terms

Article 24

Oven ready deal?

The easiest trade deal in history?
...

Any more ?

[xxxxxy] 25/11/2020 17:10

hTtps://www.brexit-watch.org/how-blair-and-brown-broke-britain

[maxidi] 25/11/2020 17:01

Spend all your money now just in case..........

[minerve 2] 25/11/2020 17:00

Diego has gone.

What a football player.

RIP Maradona

[k38] 25/11/2020 16:47

I hope Farage keeps an eye or two on Boris.

[xxxxxy] 25/11/2020 16:45

John Redwood@johnredwood·1hMr Barnier threatens to end the talks as the UK hasn't caved in. It's good news as we must be sticking to the truth there is no need to give away our fish, our right to make our own laws and control our own borders just so Germany can sell us cars tariff free. Your move EU.

[k38] 25/11/2020 16:45

Already have and it's based in Brussels..U.S of Germany!

[geckotheglorious] 25/11/2020 16:43

Maxidi,

Unlikely..more likely to be another chairman mao or stalin - ie far far worse.

[k38] 25/11/2020 16:28

I missed the update, I will try to catch up but nothing will make me think to change my mind.. Break away from this nasty and undemocratic, protectionist & corrupt union will be a blessing!

[alphorn] 25/11/2020 16:11

k38 - you might want to try and understand the main assumptions for the updated but dreadful forecasts today.

"The forecast and scenarios provided in the body of this EFO assume that the UK successfully concludes and ratifies a ‘typical’; free-trade agreement (FTA) with the EU over the next six weeks and makes a smooth transition to these new trading arrangements".

ie. No Deal implications are excluded.

There are over 200 pages plus charts for Sunaks' numbers. Quite an impressive document I must say.

[xxxxxy] 25/11/2020 15:58

I support Priti Patel.

[k38] 25/11/2020 15:50

Rule by blackmail..What a f#cking union.