Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[minerve 2] 23/10/2020 13:22

Eku

Thank you.

Where are you?

[cheshire pete] 23/10/2020 13:20

Thanks for the compliment Minerve, just had to google it and found it is far too complicated for the likes of me.
Edit: re: straw man, feel in good company with 1carus lol.

[ekuuleus] 23/10/2020 13:19

Cheshire pleasant part of the country.

[kkclimber56] 23/10/2020 13:18

But ham is simply an opportunist. He was the same with Hillsborough. Recognised a bandwagon that was going to succeed and hitched himself to it (and I speak as a scouser). Same with his current fight with Boris. He doesn't give a toss about Covid - it's all to do with trying to bring the government down.

[minerve 2] 23/10/2020 13:16

Eku

I live in Cheshire ATM and have property available to me in Belgium from time-to-time.

[minerve 2] 23/10/2020 13:13

"It was state sponsored socialism."

Ah, yes, like bailing out banks you mean?

Can't argue that one I'm afraid.


"It moved us to both much cleaner oil and gas fired stations. "

Another strawman argument.




I think some of you forgot what the original argument WAS! Cheshire stated "Thatcher gave people hope"


OBVIOUSLY NOT TO EVERYBODY!

So was he wrong in that ridiculous blanket statement or not?


Now, I know it is difficult for you tribal hobbits to admit that that statement is fundamentally flawed but will you?

[ekuuleus] 23/10/2020 13:13

Well Minerve, at least I can agree with you on the executive fraud on tax customer and companies. Being objective and not tied to ideology is also commendable. Well done.

Which country do you live in?

[utrickytrees] 23/10/2020 13:11

More replica trevi fountains in Sth Yorkshire back gardens than anywhere else in UK. Wouldn't be possible without Maggie's miner millions.

[cheshire pete] 23/10/2020 13:11

Scargill didn't care about the miners, they were his political pawn, bit like Burnham now arguing with Boris over £.

[1carus] 23/10/2020 13:09

The cost for coal was several times higher than what we could ship it in for. It was state sponsored socialism. It moved us to both much cleaner oil and gas fired stations. Although a job, the work was both dangerous and hard, the world is a better place without mining. Maggie was ahead of the game in reducing dirty fossil fuel use, unfortunately industries have a life span and it was past time to move on. Historically the UK has been excellent developing new technologies, in fact whole industrial revolutions, but equally good in dropping them once the worth goes out of them. You could argue there is no clothes mfgs here, other than Leicester, which got exposed over the summer, but I wouldnt wish those 3rd world sweat shops on our population... the other countries can have that technology that we established centuries ago. Stuff gets old, move on, that's what the Brits have always done.... mining was done.

[minerve 2] 23/10/2020 13:08

"Coal miners got dust in their lungs, not healthy."

Straw man argument. You are a professional at those Cheshire.

Coal is black too, eh? Doesn't fit in with rainbow colours, eh?

ROFLMAO!

[minerve 2] 23/10/2020 13:07

I'm not left and I don't live in France. But I am not going to sit behind right-wing or left wing idealogy just because I've decided to live in a tribe which I don't - unlike some of you.

Some things are best nationalised, and somethings aren't. When I decide on whether something has been successful I look at the facts, I don't argue ideology.

None of you Tribal Turnips are going to tell me that Thames Water has been a success for its customers.

Perhaps that is why I am a better capitalist that all of you put together. I can look at things objectively and I understand the good companies and long-term success depend on its people.

[minerve 2] 23/10/2020 13:04

grahamite2

"No, they were sacked because previously you had had three men doing one man's job, which is a fraud on the customer."

Whereas now you have one man to do the job of two so the executives and foreign sovereign wealth funds can cream billions in dividends (which are not even funded by profits) - WHICH IS A FRAUD ON THE TAX-PAYER, CUSTOMER AND small UK domiciled SHAREHOLDER.

"and ensuring a better service by letting people be fired for bad work and rewarded for good work."

Have you tried customer service lately, or looked into the quality of infrastructure or the balance sheets of some of these utilities?

Obviously NOT! The DUNDERHEAD WAS WELL AND TRULY BRAINWASHED.

[cheshire pete] 23/10/2020 13:03

Coal miners got dust in their lungs, not healthy.
Nationalised industries inefficient and incapable of forward thinking. Privatising them took the shackles off.....bit like us now we've left the EU.

[arja] 23/10/2020 13:02

Ekuuleus,
I notice you do not mention JRM making millions from Brexit and Farage applying for a foreign passport I think. I think they were NOT remainers unless they disguised it very well as TM of course did .

[ekuuleus] 23/10/2020 13:00

BT went from employing 400,000 before privatisation to about 100,000 by 2000.

I've worked for bt a few times including their release 95. I managed to crash the mainframe. :):):)

[ekuuleus] 23/10/2020 12:57

Funny isnt how our leading capitalist lives in france, is in favour of remain and a raving leftist.

[grahamite2] 23/10/2020 12:56

Minerve 223 Oct '20 - 12:42 - 317428 of 317430
... the employees who lost their jobs in the massive wave of privatisations where people were sacked just to make the figures look better...

No, they were sacked because previously you had had three men doing one man's job, which is a fraud on the customer.

The early privatizations were wholly and completely a good thing, bringing money in to the exchequer, stemming the outflow of money in the form of subsidies, and ensuring a better service by letting people be fired for bad work and rewarded for good work.

[ekuuleus] 23/10/2020 12:55

She did a lovely manoeuvre on scargill though.

[mr.elbee] 23/10/2020 12:47

and V aint moving much Ek because of the f==ing masks.