Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[maxk] 20/5/2020 21:05

Agreed Alp.

But thats what we have been saying all along, pull the plug and negotiate after.

[alphorn] 20/5/2020 21:01

Decent reply - and no mention of fish.

Hurry up and leave with No Deal.

[utrickytrees] 20/5/2020 20:40

The paths of the UK & EU have diverged post covid. There is absolutely no point in persuing an entente cordial it is a farce more so now than ever.

[action] 20/5/2020 20:36

I never thought LLOYDS will disappoint me so much. At best it is trading stock.

[action] 20/5/2020 20:34

RBS and LLOYDS both domestic players and may be here for another month due to UK trying to AGREE DEAL with EU.

[action] 20/5/2020 20:30

Both UK and EU between Rock and hard place due to COVID19.

[maxk] 20/5/2020 20:09

I dont think the proposed free trade deal is a goer. Too far apart, and without us signing up to be told what to do by Brussels, it's not going to fly.

Barniers reply

[diku] 20/5/2020 20:00

Think to bail out now at multi year lows you are obviously thinking it is either heading much lower or being in is just dead money sitting doing nothing...if you look at some of those Miners/Commodities shares moving up from lows aka ANTO...at least you get some move...even Barc has gone up 40% from lows...if the same had applied to lloy it would be around 39p...so Lloy and RBS under performers..maybe Barc due to Investment side...currently very frustrating share due to lack of movement...think only matter of time share consolidation coming...

[action] 20/5/2020 19:40

I am out of Fres and into Polymetal as later is stamp duty free .

[dead_cat_bounce] 20/5/2020 19:23

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxyyyyyyyyyyy it is too long!!!!!!

Can you pick out the key points and post those!

[maxk] 20/5/2020 19:15

Nice one 5x (#212) do you have a link I can pass on?

[gotnorolex] 20/5/2020 19:14

Whom amongst you will defend this imbecilic fruit loop that's bereft of even a smidgen of sense!
Trump says it's a 'badge of honour' for US to have most coronavirus cases

[xxxxxy] 20/5/2020 18:44

A UK – Japan trade deal has so much more potential than what the EU deliveredMay 20, 2020By Robert BatesLIKE MANY THINGS that we have inherited from EU membership, the EU-Japan Economic Partnership Agreement is incongruous with Britain's unique circumstances. It is an ill-fitting heirloom that we would be best to replace as soon as possible after the 31st December. Ultimately, the EU-Japan EPA was a trade deal that came to be defined by the demands of European farmers, rather than the preferences of Cambridgeshire biotechnicians or of Mackem mechanics. The mission of the negotiator Mauro Petriccione was clear – to crack into the protectionist agricultural sector that Japan so jealously guards. To this end negotiating capital was spent as only a frivolous bureaucrat knows how to spend. British priorities barely got a look in. As such, the news last Wednesday (13th May) that the DIT has established negotiating guidelines for a specific UK-Japan FTA is to be welcomed. As the third and fifth largest economies in the world, much stands to be gained by 'levelling up' our trading arrangements. Most refreshingly, now that the EU is out of the room, there are certain areas where we can crank things up a gear. Firstly, as the biggest recipient of Japanese inward FDI in Europe, the UK should be set to win big from the completion of an Investment Agreement. Holding more inward investment stock from Japan than the next five EU countries combined doesn't happen by accident. It's indicative of the UK's attractive ease of doing business, of our competitive business rates, and of the purchasing power of our consumers. Adding an investment agreement to the mix adds structure, and security to this already blooming flow of FDI. Such a deal was never achieved by the EU. In order to expedite the completion of the EPA, and the arrival of Italian wine into Tokyo, an EU-Japan Investment Agreement was thrown onto the backburner. There are currently over 1,000 Japanese companies in the UK, who show time and again the fundamental value they attach to the British workforce and R&D capacity. However, the UK's pre-eminence as a location for investment is due to more than just its skills and business environment. For instance, if Nissan's sales are anything to go by, then the UK is by far and away the most important automobile market in Europe. We bought over 20% of all Nissan cars that were sold in Europe in 2018. This would explain why Japanese car manufacturers have not relocated to the EEA, and why Nissan is currently considering moving some capacity from Barcelona to Sunderland. It makes sense for Japanese firms to be where the customers are. Given the symbiotic nature of this relationship, the conclusion of an Investment Agreement (minus controversial Investor-State Dispute Resolution) that is founded upon mutual trust would not only be straightforward, but mutually beneficial. Many non-tariff barriers that disproportionately affect UK exports were left untouched by Commission negotiators. Excessive testing requirements on certain pharmaceutical products and a mandated duplication in accounting certification, are but two examples of the discriminatory trade practices that the EPA did nothing about. As a rapidly ageing country, Japan is expected to become increasingly reliant on imports in both these sectors. Over a third of the population will be 65 and older by 2025, and the market for pharmaceuticals and medical equipment is estimated to reach a worth of £650 billion. Similarly, fewer working age people results in a greater outsourcing of financial services provisions. Creating an exclusive UK-Japan regulatory forum will give the FCA a greater chance of cleaving away some of the barriers that UK banking firms are still faced with, and paving the way for a greater market share. On paper, the trade complementarity between the UK and Japan will have a strong correlation for the foreseeable future. Our major export sectors are the very sectors that Japan is now importing in greater volumes. Much was made by 'Brexit-sceptics' that the UK would be 'losing' trade deals that the EU had signed on our behalf. The fanfare that greeted the EPA's entry into force last February was seen as proof of the folly of Brexit. In reality, nothing could be further from the truth. An independent trade policy empowers the UK to further liberalise the flow of these naturally occurring commercial jet streams, and provides UK regulators with forums that have hitherto been out of bounds.The standards and principles set out by GDPR are currently the bedrock of bilateral data protection rules within the EPA free trade area. They are the omnipresent hurdle which all exporters must seek to clear before anything else. For UK firms this has been a missed opportunity. Starting at first principles the UK and Japan are greatly convergent on their outlook towards this issue. There is a shared recognition that they are obviously needed, but that business considerations should not be completely ignored. Bringing our trade and regulatory policy back into house should allow British negotiators to work with their Japanese counterparts on easing this burden. Whilst this cannot be accomplished during the transition period, provisions for regulatory dialogue should certainly be included in the FTA. In doing so, the UK and Japan have the potential to become the international pacesetters for data governance. In the past month, the UK has shown the self-confidence to commence simultaneous trade negotiations with two of the three largest economies in the world – the United States and Japan. We have started to discover an outlook that is more in keeping with our capabilities, and in doing so have relegated the EU to the status of a peripheral oddity. It is no longer the only game in town, and the alternatives are already much more exciting. 

[diku] 20/5/2020 18:39

Wonder if cracks are starting to appear between the Politicians and Medical experts/advisors...Medical experts are getting too much air time and Politicians don't like it...Politicians prefer to lead and not follow...






Pierre Oreilly20 May '20 - 15:31 - 304199 of 304210
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I wish the beeb and almost everyone else whould stop saying 'covid causes the loss of ten thousand rolls royce jobs'.

Why not say the correct 'the uk gov by their silly actions following advice from marxist academics - who don't even follow their own advice - cause the loss of ten thousand roller jobs'.

[maxk] 20/5/2020 18:20

Because the oiks/plebs/chimps refuse to do as they are told.

[jl5006] 20/5/2020 18:12

Why has the media made itself the enemy?
At last some ppl recognise that the Biased broadcasting Corp is not up for us - just as the online guardian still spouts the unacceptable - and Sky - will slide into the skyline - for there are few that accept its approach.

[scruff1] 20/5/2020 17:27

cobourg
Moved into BP myself (only just) but moved into FRES a few months ago and that has kept me sane. Been really good for trading.

[mr.elbee] 20/5/2020 17:21

in reverse order

6..self isolation makes things worse[no herd immunity] and delays the virus..it does not kill it
5.There are clear ways to build up immunity.Vit D and C ..........indeed intravenous C in very large doses is much better and safer than ventilators.All of this is in peer reviewed medical journals..unlike Ferguson's model.
4.It is just another corona virus..they change all the time..we have been studying them for 65 years...colds and flu just the same idea...they mutate and there are,I believe, 200 plus versions of the common cold ... which is why there will never be a vaccine
3.Parks and such like involve sunshine and fresh air, all of which help immunity..staying inside is medically disastrous except for the very frail elderly
2 tons of evidence that it doesnt matter..since we all get infected with colds and flu every year and corona is no different for MOST people especially the healthyy young
1.Minuscule deaths in schools .. Children cannot pass the virus on to adults.

Do you REALLY care about prisons?

I suggest you think for yourself..turn the media off..look at the evidence talk to real RETIRED doctors and nurses not the current mob.

[whistling into thin air,me..this is worse than brexit..mindnumbing stupidity everywhere]

[bargainbob] 20/5/2020 17:17

Minerva on form today ,keep it up. Painful watching farmer Jacko.

[gary1966] 20/5/2020 16:48

Article on Bloomberg the other day said that banks are the most undervalued of all sectors, much cheaper than during the financial crisis, followed closely by insurers. Certainly won't be selling at these levels. Government guaranteed loans and so surely the banks get all the upside and none of the down?