Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[diku] 22/3/2020 11:24

God saying you lot have taken everything for granted...

[patientcapital] 22/3/2020 11:13

PF, clearly indicative that concerns over dividends, never mind the accompanying statements, are to the fore. How many historic ratios and yields are not now utterly meaningless as guides for future levels? Not many.

[aljm] 22/3/2020 11:07

Smartypants, EXACTLY !!! all deaths being moulded into one !


THE ITALIAN JOB
This is what ScienceDirect had to say in 2018 about Italy’s two most recent flu epidemics:

‘In the winter seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17, an estimated average of 5,290,000 ILI cases occurred in Italy, corresponding to an incidence of 9%. More than 68,000 deaths attributable to flu epidemics were estimated in the study period. Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries, especially in the elderly.’

That’s 68,000 deaths without any Coronavirus – and as Ionnidis points out, at least “30%” of all COVID virus deaths also involve other bacteria which would have killed the patient anyway.
He is being cautiously pessimistic – as we shall see. Note also the “elderly”; reference there: it is a fact that Italy has the highest demographic bulge of over 70s in Europe. And the Health Service there has been badly damaged by idiotic austerity programmes dictated by Brussels-am-Berlin.

But the shock-horror stories about lockdown there never mention any of that.

A Greek source has passed me a piece on Italy. Some of these extracts from it make very disturbing reading:

‘Many people diagnosed as “coronavirus cases” in Italy who died were almost certainly put on antiviral drugs like Ribvarin….a significant percentage of these people had prior heart conditions or high blood pressure. Ribavirin causes anaemia – life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.’

Once again, non-COVID complications and misdiagnoses.

‘Italian government researchers are combing through patient records, to take a much closer look…to see whether people are dying from the virus or other more obvious causes….The results are astonishing….99% of the dead had other illnesses’.

Proving yet again that, on the whole, COVID19 does not kill healthy people:
‘Just three victims – or 0.8% of the total – had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a quarter had either one or two previous conditions.’

This in turn reflects studies in other countries: elderly people with obvious prior diseases who died in Australia, and elderly people who were diagnosed as coronavirus cases in the state of Washington were all living in long-term-care nursing homes.

[utrickytrees] 22/3/2020 11:04

Diku, arrangements are being made for employees at retail businesses which have been locked down to be taken on by supermarkets, an arrangement like a loan deal in football.

[josh 32] 22/3/2020 11:02

India has had three deaths from coronavirus and Mr Modi has told 1.3 to stay indoors I would love to be there when policemen warn one of those 1 million families that sleep on the pavements that they have stay to indoors

[smartypants] 22/3/2020 10:59

What a bunch of crazy idiots you lot are
Do you think all the other illnesses have been put on hold?
Everyone has stopped dying from smoking related illness..cancer..heart attacks..flu?
No shortage of bananas reading here!

[alphorn] 22/3/2020 10:47

Particularly stoned - the king nutter.

[diku] 22/3/2020 10:23

Are they providing face masks in planes for passengers?...

[alphorn] 22/3/2020 10:20

#566. I just use this thread - all the experts in one nutshell.

[icejelly] 22/3/2020 10:19

Cargo planes? Goods and supplies

[sentimentrules] 22/3/2020 10:19

Wow mike. Bad isn't it

[diku] 22/3/2020 10:18

CtR...how long?..that is very depressing to read on a nice sunny day...

[mikemichael2] 22/3/2020 10:15

Still a lot of planes flying around, i don't get it.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 22/3/2020 10:15

"Daddy Warbucks22 Mar '20 - 10:09 - 7954 of 7955
What happens after the crisis is over and people cut back on their food shopping to use up their stockpiles.?"


Several months at least away from that imo...And then we're close to fall/winter 2020 which will be even worse Virus side I suspect.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 22/3/2020 10:13

K38
"Al Jazeera, RT are the best news channels so far for your information about Coronavirus and more"

Disagree.
Dr John Campbell and Peak prosperity, both on Youtube,best sources for Corona info.

[diku] 22/3/2020 10:13

It will be all be consumed as children are at home...or in some cases thrown away as it goes off...and people will get bored of eating the same stuff...

[daddy warbucks] 22/3/2020 10:09

What happens after the crisis is over and people cut back on their food shopping to use up their stockpiles.?

[diku] 22/3/2020 09:49

Anybody buying food retailer shares?...surely their profits are going to sky rocket...Christmas come early...

[crossing_the_rubicon] 22/3/2020 09:46

The NHS could be "overwhelmed" like the Italian health system in just a fortnight, Boris Johnson has warned.

In his starkest warning yet, the Prime Minister said the UK was only "two or three" weeks behind Italy, where the death toll from Covid-19 rose by 793 in 24 hours.

Urging people to heed advice to "stay at home" in order to save "literally thousands of lives", Mr Johnson said: "Unless we act together, unless we make the heroic and collective national effort to slow the spread - then it is all too likely that our own NHS will be similarly overwhelmed."




Flatten the curve chaps

[scruff1] 22/3/2020 09:35

Not sure who 'WE' are but who else could pay if not'WE'?