Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[stonedyou] 14/1/2020 21:30

Raging Ann Widdecombe blasts anti-Brexit MEP in EU Parliament clash, explaining

Boris's success

[alphorn] 14/1/2020 21:06

Poika - tonight we had Rock and Cha-cha instead. Quite exhausting but it really changes one's outlook. I had spinal surgery a while back and the dance movements seem to help a lot. My better half is a very keen dancer and has done some ballet. I have to concentrate to (try and) keep up!
Your Tango weekend sounds fun.

[cantrememberthis2] 14/1/2020 20:41

I think ill be moving to Metro Bank two accounts Mortgage and Offset Savings.

Major ISSUES over there side on transfers out!
LLoyds owns them?!

[poikka] 14/1/2020 20:30

Alps - we shall see just how Brexit turns out, and which banks will be strongest.

Enjoy your tango, just returned from a tango weekender in Torquay. Somewhat knackered, and alternately inspired and deflated in the workshops/lessons. Sunday night, I popped into the smooth jive lounge and persuaded the DJ to bring me back to life with some energetic jive - what a tonic. Back to the tango floor until 01.00 when the missus started flagging.

[utrickytrees] 14/1/2020 19:25

M2 who would you put in the following shadow cabinet positions

Deputy
Chancellor
Home office
Health
Education
Foreign
Housing
Women
Business
Scotland (not BB).

[xxxxxy] 14/1/2020 18:15

Deal with the USA good. And good for lloyds

[alphorn] 14/1/2020 18:02

Poika - plenty of fun over here. Since the election has been one huge laugh to the bank. I hope that you are up as much, somehow doubt it if you are a believer of the Boris. Lol

Off to tango this evening which, like you, I enjoy very much.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 14/1/2020 17:57

"How is it possible that the EU is not ready to start trade talks after all this time?"

Who cares. Send the fokkers to the back of the queue and start trade negotiations with USA, and CANZUK.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 14/1/2020 17:56

"John Bercow took a £1,000 taxi from Westminster to Nottingham and back during a spending spree in his last few months as Speaker"


Clearly Bercow doesn't believe in Anthropogenic global warming then!!!

Glad we've got that sorted.

[xxxxxy] 14/1/2020 17:29

Brexit has the potential to forge existential change for the UK if the Government is brave enough??January 13, 2020Brexit has the potential to forge existential change for the UK if the Government is brave enough?? Written byJohn Longworth MEPJohn Longworth was elected an MEP for Yorkshire and the Humber at the 2019 European election and sat with the Brexit Party until December 2019 and formally joined the Conservatives in January 2020. He was formerly Director General of the British Chambers of Commerce and Chairman of the Vote Leave Business Council and is now on the Advisory Boards of Economists for Free Trade and the IEA.? ? ?One of the most fascinating things in the coming months and years will be to see the extent to which Brexit proves to be a game-changer in politics, economics, the psyche of the country and the future course of British history. Will it be an existential change? Will it change our very being as a nation? I hope I live long enough to get a sense of this. Right now we find ourselves beyond the end of the beginning and on a long journey to a better place, the acid test of which will be the extent to which we take control of our laws, borders and money. These were the tests applied by Leavers repeatedly during the referendum campaign and will be the measure of success of the Boris Johnson Government. But success goes beyond constitutional matters and matters of government. There are some within Conservative ranks, and the Government for that matter, who would rather see the agenda move on as quickly as possible to "all the other things that are important to the people" of our great nation. One must have a deep suspicion that this may be far more to do with licence to ignore Brexit, or at least sweep under the carpet any deficiencies in the outcome. We will have conveniently moved on. The problem for these recalcitrant Remainers and soft, vested-interest Brexiteers is that "all the other things" to which they refer are intrinsically wrapped up with the progress of Brexit, its outcome and success. A difficulty with the grasping of this, even and perhaps especially amongst those who led the referendum campaign, is that they assiduously steered clear of the economic and business implications, leaving this small matter solely to the Vote Leave Business Council and Economists for Brexit. A root cause of much of the wrangling of the past three-and-a-half years has been the failure to address these matters in the mainstream campaign in 2016, which furthermore allowed the left-wing, illiberal, anti-populist media establishment to embed the concepts of "cliff edge" and "crashing out" in the public discourse and consciousness. In order for Brexit to be perceived as a force for good, that it be sustainable and that it be a practical success, it must lead to a change in the make-up of the economy of the UK, the geographical distribution of wealth and enterprise, and provide an overall economic boost. I think it must also lead to a manifest demonstration of Britain's independence, its separateness from others. Whether or not sections of our leadership desire this or instead desire the status quo, and whether or not the left-wing illiberals grasp the desire for change amongst their own constituency, it will determine the direction of our future and the outcome of the next election. This latter will be likely determined by what happens, what is set in train (if not in stone), in the next year or two. If the Government wish to be a three-term phenomenon, they need to grasp this: they cannot rely on Brexhaustion, a sigh of relief or the natural predisposition of people to prefer no change. The genie is out of the bottle and revolutions lead to unexpected consequences. In respect of Britain's interaction with the world at large, that change will also be of importance. It is no break for freedom if we sacrifice our new-found liberty from one over-weening, putative empire only to make ourselves subject to another. Quite rightly Britain will pivot towards the Commonwealth and to those nations who share our head of state in particular, but we must, if Brexit is to mean anything in our sovereign international place in the world, plough our own furrow and test every decision with the litmus paper of whether it is truly in our national interest. All of this requires a taste for change; a capacity and desire in government to make things different, even if it leads to an amount of creative disruption. In this context a reform of the machinery of government is important. The inertia of Whitehall is the enemy of change and a reflection of Whitehall's agenda of perpetual self-interest. To bust this open, perhaps government should adopt an American-style system, abolish the Permanent Secretaries and their deputies and replace them with a system of political appointees. But this is longer term stuff, for the future. Brexit will also demand an embracing of change by vested interests across the spectrum. Whatever business groups do, business will respond and adapt quickly if the changes are obvious and immediate enough. Anybody in business who has ever been involved in major change programmes will recognise a number of fundamentals. Change usually takes place when it is overdue, when the head of steam can no longer be contained. It requires a "burning platform", real or artificial, to drive progress. To be successful, it must be perceived as radical, with dramatic symbolism, urgent and most tumultuous at the very beginning of the process. In this case the political cycle of four or five year election intervals sets the timeframe, with the need to drive through what is necessary in the first year or two in order to catapult us into certainty of direction, give time to embrace change and get through the inevitable emotional cycle it produces. Soon the changes will become the new norm and its benefits will accrue long before its acceptance must be tested with the electorate. With change will come a certain amount of pain in some quarters, but without pain there is no gain. Equally certain is that without change a great opportunity will be lost and the nation will drift into decay like so much of Europe. Brexit and change should be synonymous. We will soon see if this is the case. There is one chance to seize this tiger by the tail and get this right. Boris, be brave.Brexit central

[1carus] 14/1/2020 17:18

Alphorn ... hard to tell about a global downturn. No doubt there will be one eventually. Is the UK in a better position to handle than 2008?. Is it better placed to handle it better than other countries?. DAx and the DOW are close to double their value since 2000?, the ftse all share has done nothing like the dax and the dow since 2000.
Not sure we have had so much QA as other states, so I am hoping we are in a better position than most. Down turns present opportunities too, some of the best.

[poikka] 14/1/2020 16:59

Anyone held shares in Games Workshop from the off, or nearly? Probably not, or if they have they'll be sunning themselves somewhere nice.

[minerve 2] 14/1/2020 16:52

Poikka

Not death on all elderly. Some are decent and intelligent folk, full of wisdom and good character. Sadly that doesn't fit any Brexiter I have come across.

[poikka] 14/1/2020 16:48

Boy these guys must be fun - Minnie, Alps, Ladeside, BB (and BB), forever wishing economic failure on the UK, or in Minnie's case death to the elderly by whatever unpleasant means he can dream up.

[minerve 2] 14/1/2020 16:44

"1carus - all quotations are choosy!"

ROFLMAO!

[alphorn] 14/1/2020 16:22

1carus - all quotations are choosy!

IMO BJ is going to run into an economic downturn which is likely to hit at the wrong time (if there ever is a right time).

The immediate post election euphoria was pure fantasy and the moment to open bearish positions. I shall keep them running for now.

[jacko07] 14/1/2020 16:20

Yawn! Minerve's eternal losing crusade to have us stay on the sinking ship, he will still be on board screaming as his beloved Europe joins Woodford in the failure stakes.

Whineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Whingeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Give up now Minnie before you go down in history as the board's biggest loser!