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Santa Claws BackPosted December 9, 2019 at 12:20 pm | PermalinkNothing about Council Tax in anyone's election leaflets.Why?Is it a special gift for everyone at Christmas? Have I let the cat out of the bag?Sorry!

[xxxxxy] 09/12/2019 16:01

Lib Dems would let Corbyn inBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: DECEMBER 9, 2019Jo Swinson this morning on Radio 4 confirmed her preference to just cancel Brexit by a vote in Parliament, but conceded she did not think there would be enough MPs in the next Parliament who would do that. She no longer believes there will be a Lib Dem majority government by Friday.This is an interesting development. Every time I see her on tv in various constituencies around the country she is flanked by Lib Dem posters setting out their catch phrase, "Winning here". It's an odd and self serving slogan. Normally parties and candidates have slogans about what they want to do for the voters.This Lib Dem slogan asserts that they  uniquely know what voters are going to do in each place as if they have some special prescience the rest of us do not share about how people will vote. It now appears that in many of these places the Lib Dem leader thinks they are not winning after all. The slogan was apparently misleading or simply a lie.  It would have been more modest and sensible if their posters said "Trying to win here" or "Keen to win  here". "Unlikely to win here" would be a bit of a turn off even where it was an honest assessment.What was more bizarre was what she said about their fall back position, the wish to hold a second referendum on the EU issue. She vacillated about supporting a Labour government offering one and  appeared to want to move straight to a second General election.She would be under great pressure to accept a Labour minority government offering a second referendum.  Her message of vote Lib Dem to get a hung Parliament, so we can then have a second General election to try for a different Parliament again  is absurd. Why would anyone vote for a result which required another election immediately? It also looks like an attempt to cover up a likely deal with Labour were they to get their hung Parliament.  No wonder her slogan is not "Vote for a hung Parliament so you can have a second General election"She has consistently said there are no circumstances in which she would support a Conservative government seeking to implement the result of the referendum, so that only leaves one realistic option in a hung Parliament, a Labour led government.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 09/12/2019 15:59

@MrElbee
"Germany is finished for ten years at least and as a result the EU is doomed..I am only talking economics,mind..the rest,social and political policy is also shot to pieces"


Yep, absolutely agree. And with the major payer in EU under stress,someone else will be expected to pick up the tab...

Remember those GDP related "fines"

They'll be several of them whilst UK economy powers on with fewer regulatory restrictions.




"Please,please tell me this"What is there to remain in?"



No reason. Not even for "world peace" which NATO has guaranteed, not EU.

[gotnorolex] 09/12/2019 15:58

Boris Johnson refuses to look at photo of four-year-old boy on hospital floor, takes reporter's phone and puts it in his pocket



This reporter attempted to paint a heartless Boris on a false notion of him putting an ailing NHS up for sale! using a heart wrenching picture of that poor child as a pawn in a dirty fight campaign! Since he's been in office has genuinely put it top of his agenda, announcing massive amounts of cash to deal with exponentially growing demands on it's services, because of the successes in cancer and other diseases which used to be terminal on diagnosis! Survival rates have dramatically increased over the years, thanks to a fundamentally caring service, he and pretty much everybody would insist on it being free at point of delivery! Lousy attack lefties, don't use tragedy to berate a wonderful service!

[crossing_the_rubicon] 09/12/2019 15:54

"Seems like the UK is still not ready for Socialism :("


Only an idiot is ready for socialism.
Socialism never works, wherever it has been tried.

And no, the Scandi countries are not democratic socialist countries either.


"Hard work pays!"

Much of the time,yes. As it should.
Sometimes however it doesn't,unfortunately.

[maxk] 09/12/2019 15:51

You dont like the beeb bob?

[bargainbob] 09/12/2019 15:43

Sell off the bbc , thats great news .

[k38] 09/12/2019 15:31

You can't trust labour! As for..Lib dems will not accept the results after the election and will campaign for new elections.

[gotnorolex] 09/12/2019 15:22

Vote Tory and party on Brexit day!

[k38] 09/12/2019 15:19

Lol, panic all over the BBC about the licence fees ..Jobs, Fat salaries and pensions are at risk.

[ladeside] 09/12/2019 15:10

"I will never trust a desperate and unstable liar person to govern me!"

Well, that's the Tories and the Brexit party ruled out then.............

[k38] 09/12/2019 15:07

4 days a week.. fully paid salaries.. taxes for the few.. cash for the many.. privatisation of billions...Billions growing on trees..


Promises, promises, promises from a desperate old man with one and only chance to become PM and at least of two more years of the same..a useless parliament controlled by and from Brussels bureauc-rats.

I will never trust a desperate and unstable liar person to govern me!

[jordaggy] 09/12/2019 15:06

I've always voted for the Tories M4, but I agree with much of what Corby rants on about and to some extent McDonnell too. With limited IQ but a good education, I've done well in life, never been on benefits, even when I was entitled to them. Socialism is fine in theory but in practise, it can never pay for itself... I take a less idealistic and more capitalist, pragmatic approach. Hard work pays!

[m4rtinu] 09/12/2019 14:51

Jordy - good point. As looks very likely, the Tories will get a working majority. I would see a temporary boost to shares. Until Brexit negotiations start and reality dawns.

I have seen it said that a smallish majority for the Tories would give leverage back to the anachronistic ERG, whereas a larger majority would see a softer Brexit.

As a Labour supporter, I have given up on any late surge this time. And as a Remainer, I am resigned to leaving the EU (for the time-being). But I won't be throwing my toys out of the pram and leaving the UK, as it is claimed some richer people would do IF JC/JMc got in. Seems like the UK is still not ready for Socialism :(

[gotnorolex] 09/12/2019 14:47

I remember the '71 census when up in Burslem, the whole staff of 12,ticked the professional box, and added PUM as a suffix to their name. (Pottery union member) LOL!

[grahamite2] 09/12/2019 14:44

Boris thinking about abolishing the licence fee. Excellent.

But you have to wonder why he said it before the result was in. You'd expect the BBC now to ratchet up the anti-Conservative messages - does Boris think they can't get any worse than they already are?

[mr.elbee] 09/12/2019 14:31

you are very right about polls and I know for a fact that groups..especially straw poll groups on the telly...love to wind up the pollsters.

Of course the silent majority never get asked.

If I was King polls would be illegal

[k38] 09/12/2019 14:25

Farage "privatisation for BBC ".. about time !

[k38] 09/12/2019 14:21

Calm down boys.. it's over for the opposition, they have to wait another 5 years I am afraid. Media all over Boris, "can we trust you.." Boris to media "people trust me, I don't care about you if you trust me or not"

[gotnorolex] 09/12/2019 14:14

Respondents who complete Poll surveys, always lie! If your post code does not match your voting habits.....Watch-out!

[cheshire pete] 09/12/2019 14:02

Never been asked to take part in an election poll in my life. Convinced pollsters filter so they get the answer they want. Wouldn't be difficult, standing in the High St. Easy to tell between Tories and Labourites most of the time so ignore the ones you don't like the look of.

Phone polls similarly. If you live on a 'lane' chances are you live in the country and would vote Tory. If you live on a 'street' or a 'road' with numbers approaching 4 figures or a 60's tower block more likely to vote labour. Not an exact science I know but not rocket science either.

Phone nos. Just going off dialling codes for main cities London, Manchester, Liverpool would give more chance of labour votes.

Irony is that attempts to influence results of elections with biased polls likely to be counter productive.

[gotnorolex] 09/12/2019 13:59

Wake up and smell the coffee!
Capitalism only cure for depressive disorder!

[ladeside] 09/12/2019 13:56

"Fire sale of companies and assets"

You mean there's still stuff left to sell ??

[gotnorolex] 09/12/2019 13:56

Next week this time, we'll be implementing ambitious business ideas which were 3.1/2 years in waiting! Hey World here we come!