Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[gotnorolex] 09/12/2019 11:29

McDonnell...."They don't want you to dream of a better life!"
Darn right! We want you to have a better life by working effectively and keeping more of what you earn!

[bbalanjones] 09/12/2019 11:16

Alp: Can't get any response via Swissinfo....must be overload!!

Edit:- edit: financially, a bonanza for a No Deal exit. (Especially in Financials).

[alphorn] 09/12/2019 11:12

gnr - I understand that and as posted before my hope (non financial) is for an orderly exit.

It does not mean though that an understanding of what goes on outside of the UK should be ignored. There are some very naïve posters here who are learning resistant. That will become a problem.

edit: financially, a bonanza for a No Deal exit.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 09/12/2019 11:10

@Cheshire

C'est la vie.

As to outcomes I'm hoping Ann Widdecombe gets in myself this GE...

Results : Friday 13th - tad ominous for the superstitious

:)

[bbalanjones] 09/12/2019 11:10

CP> The reverse of that could also read "Leave means Leave - the UK that is!!. We all need to get back to the School Yard and grow-up to cooperate.

[gotnorolex] 09/12/2019 11:04

Hey Alp, couldn't change mindset so we're inching away from the EU!

[bbalanjones] 09/12/2019 11:03

The Corps de Ballet of the ConYou Party will again be flying to show off their wares this week.

We Have Michael Gove, the Chief Parrot who can stab BoJo in the back once more. However he believes himself to truly be a 'Bird of Paradise'.

Mr Dominic Raab, an up and coming Foreign Assassin Bird.

Mr Rishi Sunak, fresh faced Newbi-Currencybird, thinks HE can become Head Parrot.

Sajid Javid, a real Wheeler Dealer Bird if only he could grasp the Maths.


What a disaster of a Political Flock : All led by a Bumbling Liar Bird.

[alphorn] 09/12/2019 11:02

For those dreamers focussing on Brussels just skim this link to see the number of people working just in Geneva for the UN family, incl WLO, WTO and the NGO's etc.
Unless you live in the area you will have no idea what their (mostly tax free) packages total, including mouth watering benefits for them and their families.
The pension arrangements are out of this world - lower admin workers are paid higher pensions then I expect most posters would even dream of as salaries - that is their pension!



There are also mouth watering tax free organisations in London.

[cheshire pete] 09/12/2019 10:56

My sympathies CTR, would be disgusted too. Thankfully we've got Esther McVey. Would have loved to see her 'kick off' at May's cabinet meeting.

[grahamite2] 09/12/2019 10:53

Alphorn 9 Dec '19 - 10:39 - 285486 of 285489
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No problem G2 so long as you don't expect to export any goods.

A very civilized post - I'm glad to hear it. But the real fanatics don't agree.

What was the metric martyr trying to export when he sold an old lady 2 pounds of sprouts?

[cheshire pete] 09/12/2019 10:53

bbalanjones: the EU is unsustainable. It is doomed. Why don't they report what's going on in Malta and France...because Brussels wants to hide the truth. The 17.4 million who voted leave can see we are better off OUT. Anyone who wants to remain can go and live in the EU...any takers?

[crossing_the_rubicon] 09/12/2019 10:44

@Cheshire

Not even going to bother watching the election broadcast - wont be voting either.
My local offering is:
Remain
Remain
Remain

Am disgusted.

[cheshire pete] 09/12/2019 10:42

No problem if you get small ones G2...minimalism is the trend these days is it not lol.

Waiting for a lefty poll saying Tory lead narrowing so re-traces ahead of Friday....could be happy days, kerching and a good night at the Brexit Arms.

Dismal selection of pundits on election night have to say. Would have watched SKY but they've got the poison dwarf on.

[alphorn] 09/12/2019 10:39

No problem G2 so long as you don't expect to export any goods.

[alphorn] 09/12/2019 10:39

An amusing post from MrE. Just how many WTO posts are there in Geneva alone and just how much income tax do you think that the staff pay?
Wake up man.

[jordaggy] 09/12/2019 10:35

Tricky to hedge this Mr.E. A Corbyn government will result in a no brexit, which would also be boost to financial shares.

[alphorn] 09/12/2019 10:31

If you are right about such an increase then it is the moment to open bearish positions going into 2020 which is unlikely to be very rosy.

[grahamite2] 09/12/2019 10:25

I'm trying to buy some Christmas cards, and thanks to Alphorn and his crew I'm having to check the sizes out with a tape measure. What's wrong with saying 7 x 5, 9 x 6 etc so that people would actually know what the sizes meant?

[mr.elbee] 09/12/2019 10:13

20 % increase if Boris prevents a Corbyn government..

otherwise the reverse.

These are independent forecasts that seem to me to be about right in the very short run.
Many informed punters are buying now...if,at the same time, you put a hefty bet on a Corbyn governemt actually happening.[.with such favourable odds now for the punter.]..you have some compensation if the nightmare happens..a very primitive"straddle".

[mr.elbee] 09/12/2019 10:10

But the WTO cannot guarantee cushy non jobs to the overpaid intelligentsia.

Which is why they want any other arrangement but the WTO terms.

Political reality ,I'm afraid.

[xxxxxy] 09/12/2019 09:33

Getting Brexit done
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: DECEMBER 9, 2019
I do want the next Parliament to complete our exit from the EU so we can move on. The uncertainty deliberately generated by the Remain majority in the last Parliament was harmful . Too many MPs pushed out negative views about the result of simply taking back control of our laws, our money and our borders. Too many MPs elected on a ticket of supporting Brexit spent the whole of the last Parliament trying to delay or stop it altogether.

Let us be clear about the Conservative Manifesto and my views on Brexit. I have not signed any secret deal as some here suggest. I do support the national Conservative Manifesto as it states

There will be no extension to the Implementation period
We will take back control of our laws and our money
We will be out of the single market and customs union, with our own trade policy
We will have full control of our fishing waters
We will introduce a UK immigration policy
The public now have the opportunity to elect a new Parliament that will carry out their wish to leave the EU. Nigel Farage made a difficult decision for him not to stand in seats which the Conservatives won the last time. The revised Political Declaration sets out how we will leave and base our future relationship on a Free Trade Agreement, not a customs partnership or surrogate single market membership.

The Conservative MPs who last time broke their promises on Brexit have now joined the Lib Dems, or retired, or are standing as Independents in favour of overturning Brexit or pressing for a much closer relationship with the EU than Leavers want.

The Conservative party would have liked the Brexit party to also stand down in all those seats which the Conservatives have the best chance of winning from other parties. Just winning the 317 seats Conservatives won last time is not sufficient to form a majority government. The Conservatives did not feel as a national party with a realistic chance of winning a majority they could stand down candidates in various parts of the country. As a result the Brexit party felt there was no reciprocation, whilst the Conservatives are keen to avoid the Brexit party splitting the Leave vote in some important cases.

All this is made much more complicated by the fact that this is a General election and Jeremy Corbyn is widely assumed to be the alternative Prime Minister to Boris Johnson as the polls indicate. The General election is not a re run of the EU referendum though some people will cast their vote on the basis of their views of Brexit. The Conservatives are the only party which can prevent a Labour government led by Mr Corbyn from winning and taking over. The Greens, Lib Dem’s, SNP and Plaid are all in favour of stopping or delaying Brexit so only a Conservative Government with a Commons majority can deliver taking back control of our laws, our money and our borders. The Lib Dems and SNP have stated that in a hung Parliament they would not allow Conservatives to form a government.

That is why many Brexit party members decided it was best to settle for Mr Johnson’s approach to Brexit and to back him. To lose Brexit and end up with Mr Corbyn as PM would be a double blow which many are not prepared to risk. That is why Nigel Farage decided it best not to stand in 317 seats. In these seats it would have been very difficult for Brexit to win, but in some marginal seats easy to allow a pro Remain candidate to win from another party by splitting the Brexit vote.

[mitchy] 09/12/2019 07:49

Any result that clobbers the Trotsky labour party will be a boost to catch up with the positionwe should be in already.