Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[alphorn] 15/8/2019 15:53

Minerve - Willoicc has a fixation on Tesla's because they have no gearboxes.

ROFLMAO

[stewart64] 15/8/2019 15:41

Ladeside May's deal was actually the Union's deal with bells on, they wanted to leave with a deal and some sort of social contract. It was all there, but again they supported Corbyn's disingenuous blocks because they too smelt power.

[adyfc] 15/8/2019 15:35

The curse of Eric Daniels forever hangs over this.

[ladeside] 15/8/2019 15:33

You blamed the "unions" for the "state we're in" which I found rather bizarre ??

Labour certainly don't come out of this debacle smelling of roses, far from it, however the nightmare was all the doing of Cameron for purely personal political aims and nothing at all to do with helping or serving the country.

What has followed since then is continual infighting and scandalous behaviour from ALL the mainstream parties, using political point scoring and putting personal gain ahead of the countries interests.

That I'm afraid, is unforgivable.................

[stewart64] 15/8/2019 15:14

Ladeside please explain the difference between where Labour were at and where Theresa May was at prior to ( mainly) Labour MPs voting the deal down. Well there wasn't was there, other than the fact Labour thought it was a great opportunity to seize power with disingenuous differences that nobody could explain except for Sir Keir Starmers stupid pained expression.
The %%%# have even admitted it was all Poker.

Really a case of Labour playing silly c$$ts ( they'd have rejected a Corbyn deal with bells on) and leaving the Tories a choice of No Deal or political oblivion.

[willoicc] 15/8/2019 15:13

The House of Lords stated that we do not owe anything.

I think I believe them.

[minerve 2] 15/8/2019 15:04

willoic

That post was so funny. Are you an adult?

And we give these numpties opportunity to vote?

[barbar7619] 15/8/2019 15:03

It won't happen end of!! 39 Billion whatever !!!!

[ladeside] 15/8/2019 14:54

THERE IS NO £39 BILLION !!!

FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME, THIS IS MONEY THAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO PAY AS OUR SHARE FOR VARIOUS PROJECTS UNDERTAKEN, LOANS, GRANTS & PENSIONS ETC WHEN PART OF THE EU.

WE SIGNED UP TO IT, WE BENEFITED AND WE OWE THE MONEY.

THERE IS NO WALKING AWAY I'M AFRAID...................

[xxxxxy] 15/8/2019 14:51

DominicPosted August 15, 2019 at 6:47 am |PermalinkThe EU and the Eurozone is the product of decades of German economic domination. It is testament to German efficiency and productivity.And the Eurozone is a veneer for German's economic empire. All other Eurozone economies revolve around the German sun tied in their respective orbits by the gravity of the prevailing value of the EuroThe Eurozone isn't about free trade, it's about expanding and protecting German export markets

[xxxxxy] 15/8/2019 14:48

Let's get OUT of the EUSSR and it's Project HellAnd save 39 billion for the British People.LEAVE and WTO

[ladeside] 15/8/2019 14:48

"it's the Unions and the Labour party that got us here"

What ???

Are you on drugs ???

[xxxxxy] 15/8/2019 14:46

ShirleyPosted August 15, 2019 at 5:36 am |PermalinkA sovereign independent country can react more quickly to changing world conditions, as opposed to the behemoth of the EU which takes years (if not decades) to react and agree a solution, that's if they can agree at all.Once the UK leaves, there will be many tax increases in the EU to overcome the loss of UK money and the reduction in trade. I honestly cannot imagine the EU will cut its budget to match the reduced income. They appear to be hell bent on increasing it, so who will pay?

[willoicc] 15/8/2019 14:11

It was not the USA that started WW1 and WW2.

In WW2 the UK was in serious jeopardy. German u-boats were doing their best to sink as many Allied ships as possible in order to starve the British people into submission. Really nice people the Germans.

Mr. Henry Ford refused to manufacture war supplies for the UK because he was an isolationist who was determined that the USA would not get sucked into another European war after their experience during WW1. (That is for all the people who buy Fords).

Fortunately for us, Japan thought that the USA was militarily weak and they attacked Pearl Harbour.

That resulted in the USA going to war with Japan and then with Germany.

The US stepped up war production and were soon producing vast amounts of arms. Gradually the war in Europe was turned in our favour.

If it had not been for the USA everyone on here would probably be speaking German with a jack-booted supervisor cracking the whip.

The trouble is that there are so many on here who would probably relish that situation.

Lets import lots of Teslas' and all the German car buyers can then say they buy German cars because Teslas are rubbish.

[minerve 2] 15/8/2019 14:09

If they are not desperate times then there is no need to leave the EU is there.

Still waiting for a good rationale argument on the need to leave.

[bargainbob] 15/8/2019 14:08

Great strength from the black horse today.

[patientcapital] 15/8/2019 14:06

These aren't desperate times and the hyped up talk of cliffs, crises and catastrophes is misplaced. The wordsmiths at Westminster are simply stirring aided and abetted by the media. It's August and silly season is in full swing.

[stewart64] 15/8/2019 13:13

Ladeside it's the Unions and the Labour party that got us here. As I said earlier had May's deal been a Corbyn deal most Labour MPs would have backed it. If you play political games...Hillary Benn, Mrs. Balls, Lady Nugee then you get what you deserve voting for seizing Power as opposed to a sensible compromise. May moved a mile, Labour didn't move an inch they played poker for Power.
As Rory Stewart said there was virtually no difference in the two parties. Instead we got Starmer acting like a complete p$$k and acting like May's deal was the end of the world.

[ladeside] 15/8/2019 13:11

Desperate times call for desperate measures Patient.

Who knows, quite often in our darkest of times is when a hero steps forward to be counted..........

[patientcapital] 15/8/2019 13:05

Back to the horrible seventies. At least I've still got the candles!

[ladeside] 15/8/2019 12:51

What the country needs to do is mobilise the Unions and basically if they DID attempt to circumvent democracy by proroguing parliament then coordinated National strikes should be called.

The very fact people are even discussing this just shows the state this country is in.

For all intents and purposes we are becoming a dictatorship and I don't understand how more of you can't see this.

What's even worse, is that the USA are the ones working the strings, Christ, what a bloody mess...........

[smartypants] 15/8/2019 12:50

Oh dear, when will these people learn...No one cares
The British can live off pizza’s and KFC (from Taiwan)

“our biggest market, the EU”

No deal would put more than half of farms out of business.

More than half of British farms “could go out of business” if the UK leaves the EU without a Brexit deal, a leading farming expert has warned.

The former chief economist at the National Farmers’ Union, warned of a perfect storm of new barriers to selling in Europe, new competition at home from around the world and loss of subsidies could decimate many farms.

More than 40% of UK farms would be running at a loss without subsidies known as the ‘basic payment’, if at the same time, the Government removes all tariffs and so depresses prices, these two factors combined will render over 50% of farms in this country unviable.

The government would not be able to fulfil all its promises to compensate various affected sectors, making the chances of full compensation “remote” for farmers.

British farmers will be caught between increased competition from third countries importing produce to the UK, and increased difficulty and cost when exporting to our biggest market, the EU, he added.

Free trade agreements to reduce those barriers will take many years to negotiate.

Coupled with the loss of the basic payment scheme of support payments by 2022, the driving down of farm revenues means that more than half of farms could go out of business.


Liars...

The government’s own budget watchdog has said Britain could be plunged into recession, soaring unemployment, prices and government debt while business investment, house prices and real wages could slump.

[lippy4] 15/8/2019 12:44

alphorn

so why are they talking about taking the legal challenge to the ecj about what happens in proroguing our parliament.
its a known fact that they have a political leaning to their eu masters.

its none of their business..

[owdbuffer] 15/8/2019 12:40

Another proper investor who knows for sure that LLOY is going to go up, but had no idea they were going to go down?

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The aptly named smartypants. No, I had no idea they were going down and I doubt that you did either. Nor have I any idea when they are going up short term. None of us have any real idea where anything is going today, tomorrow or next week, there are too many events which are out of our control and which we don't know about. Short term you buy a share and you don't know whether it is going up, down, sideways or standing on it's head. Long term it's different. You can have an opinion that a share is under valued by the market on the basis of income, ending of PPI in Lloyds case, yield, dividend cover,competent management etc. In my view, but obviously not in yours, LLOY qualifies for a place in a long term portfolio and is a keeper.

Just don't over buy on margin, they may go down more in the political turmoil which will be September, in which case I will buy some more paid up shares.

I have no intention of arguing with you smarty, I see nothing in your posts which makes me respect your opinion, so I have filtered you.

[mr.elbee] 15/8/2019 12:37

...are better than a load of failed european politicians with dreams of Empire...at least we can get rid of our chumps.