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[gotnorolex] 20/7/2019 13:29

"If".... someone ought to read Kipling to Trump!

[sarkasm] 20/7/2019 13:19

Alphorn
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"caused by career politicians"

True that may be but most unlikely to change very soon. It is more likely to snow tomorrow.

btw jacko, I would not be surprised at all if Trump did not go for a second term. If he could negotiate a treaty with N Korea or something I think that he would prefer go out on a high rather than sit through a global downturn. A president is always remembered by their last years.

What trump has done he will undo just to get a second term.

no more trade wars

no more bullying of other nations

no more silly tweets


i am sure there are many other factors that trump can make good

climate change

fraking

mexico wall


stop creating problems far away from usa in other lands

nearer to to home keep his nose out of venzuela,cuba and mexico

[alphorn] 20/7/2019 13:10

"caused by career politicians"

True that may be but most unlikely to change very soon. It is more likely to snow tomorrow.

btw jacko, I would not be surprised at all if Trump did not go for a second term. If he could negotiate a treaty with N Korea or something I think that he would prefer go out on a high rather than sit through a global downturn. A president is always remembered by their last years.

[minerve 2] 20/7/2019 13:06

FT comment:

We are in for 5-7 years of horror. But after that things will change rapidly as the boomer generation dies off and the millennials become the major decision makers and the largest holders of executive power. That will produce a very dramatic swing against the current nationalistic and nostalgia driven politics. The old dinosaurs of labour, the brexiter pensioner WW2 nostalgics and old Tories like most party members, Ian Dunkan Donut etc will be dead, not least because the NHS wont have any money to spend on keeping them alive!




ROFLMAO!

[gotnorolex] 20/7/2019 13:02

Middle class culture, not class per say has always been in dominance in Britain, but unfortunately is no longer a yardstick in education or behavior!

[minerve 2] 20/7/2019 12:56

John McDonnell - the guy is a nutter.

[maxk] 20/7/2019 12:50

So you'd prefer the tyranny of the minority?

[gotnorolex] 20/7/2019 12:39

jacko07 Agree with your musings on Trump of whom it's clear failed his 11+ and as POTUS still reduces matters of State to a bumbling rant using his yet undeveloped vocabulary! As a Brexiter look forward to kindling old trading relationships, this time with commodity prices set by the market and not by cannon! But the tyranny of the majority must be ignored when steering a Nation.

[minerve 2] 20/7/2019 12:26

"Our time to get out was written in the wind on Cameron's return in early 2016, at least 17.4 million people decided that the UK was no longer going to be dictated to by unelected lickspittles, we are better than that."

You are being dictated by unelected individuals. The plutocrats are in full control. Most numpties wouldn't know what a plutocrat is or where to look. But they are there alright, dictating the terms.

[minerve 2] 20/7/2019 12:21

Trump will win a second term IMO. I have already adjusted my portfolio, ready.

[jacko07] 20/7/2019 12:20

We won't become a US stooge, Trump will not win a second term. Leaving Europe on 31st October is not going to be Armageddon unless Brussels chooses to play more Hardball.

Look back over time and there have been far worse events many of them because of Europe. Thatcher called them dictators and fought our corner, since then we got the weak grey man John Major whose stupidity caused Black Wednesday, then we got Tony Blair who sold us out with free movement and our huge monetary contributions to Brussels, then dithering David Cameron who tried to get some leeway and he was sent packing. How Brussels would love to replay those talks with Cameron!!

Our time to get out was written in the wind on Cameron's return in early 2016, at least 17.4 million people decided that the UK was no longer going to be dictated to by unelected lickspittles, we are better than that.

[pooroldboy55] 20/7/2019 12:07

Trump says what he thinks right or wrong unlike our mp's who lie through their teeth .
i don't like some of what he says if you don't like it tough at least he's not sitting on the fence frightened to upset anyone.

[poikka] 20/7/2019 12:04

Minnie - "It seems apparent that they were just getting on with their lives under the agreement which Trump decided to break."

Just how gullible can you get.

Shia's were interfering wherever they could throughout the Middle East. Just a continuation of the London Iranian Embassy affair. Suppose that was caused by Trump, too. Not to mention the UK/Iranian woman banged up.

[minerve 2] 20/7/2019 12:00

jacko07

One can understand the frustrations of the majority but they are picking the wrong target to vent their frustrations. Most Remainers would agree that the EU isn't perfect but it is better than what awaits us if No Deal happens and we become the US stooge.

[xxxxxy] 20/7/2019 06:26

The sheer absurdity of ‘Hammond and the Remoaners’
Praising the power of Parliament, but happy to give away its powers to Brussels bureaucrats

[xxxxxy] 20/7/2019 06:23

Mrs May damages the Union

By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JULY 20, 2019

It is entirely in keeping with Mrs May’s calamitous handling of government that her parting gift as PM should include Northern Ireland legislation which stokes up controversy between Leave and Remain and is disliked by the DUP, the representatives of the majority in Northern Ireland.

She claimed to be a committed supporter ofhe Union yet her words and actions gave heart to those who oppose the Union. In Scotland she seemed to encourage the SNP, out to use Brexit to weaken the Union. She rarely made the case that Brexit is a UK matter based on a UK wide referendum. She took SNP objections to Brexit more seriously than the many Scottish voices who support Brexit.

In Northern Ireland Mrs May accepted the Republic view that the border is a problem against the view of her own allies, the DUP. She almost lost her government by agreeing to the Irish backstop in the Withdrawal Treaty without their consent.

So here is the irony. Mrs May claimed to be the champion of the Union yet she sided with the Union’s strongest critics, Sinn Fein and the SNP, on the EU question. MrsMay put her loyalty to tge EU above her alleged love of tge Union, just as she put her enthusiasm for the EU above her democratic promise to get us out