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[grahamite2] 06/3/2019 13:41

An interesting and civilized post 248561 from 1carus. I'm surprised it hasn't got more upticks.

[alphorn] 06/3/2019 13:38

Plenty more too Stag. :(

………;……̷0;……R30;...and what about the motorcycles. That could keep us going for about 100 posts!

[grahamite2] 06/3/2019 13:38

At least half the people on this board, stag6!

Well, maybe not Autovia or Gordon-Keeble.

[alphorn] 06/3/2019 13:37

"a brexit that is not seen as a fudge".

Agree 1carus; almost alchemy!

[stag6] 06/3/2019 13:26

Who remembers the many cars manufactured in the UK once upon a time.

Austin, Morris, Hillman, Singer, Sunbeam, Riley, Standard, Wolseley, Humber, Jowett, Bristol, Alvis, Armstrong Siddeley, Jensen, Reliant, British Salmson, Allard, Autovia, Dawson, DeLorean, Gilbern, Gordon-Keeble, Healey, Lanchester, Lea-Francis, Napier, Rover, Sterling, Sunbeam-Talbot, Talbot, Triumph, TVR, Vanden Plas.

[k38] 06/3/2019 13:18

No Deal is Not a Big Deal.Any replacement agreement is likely to be much the same as the backstop itself. We should thus regard the backstop as essentially mandatory and permanent thus ruling out the UK having an independent trade policy to enable us to improve relations with our rapidly growing markets.The Withdrawal Agreement ties down the UK to a future within a customs union and bound by single market regulations.Under No Account Should the UK Accept the Withdrawal AgreementThe WA is a bad agreement. It ties the UK closely to EU rules. In the transition period until the end of 2020 and perhaps up to another two years, the UK will remain fully within EU rules and under European Court of Justice [ECJ] jurisdiction without any say..We would continue to pay around billions a year to the EU and and there would be no tangible benefits to show from Brexit

[careful] 06/3/2019 13:05

I hope the UK economy does not tank.
None of us knows.
Collateral damage will be done to the EU. also, which will not help us, we need a healthy EU. for our economy to prosper.

My take is that Theresa May has got the best deal she could get.
We should take it.
All of these arguments in the UK about negotiating a better deal.
We have to get the EU. to agree everything and they are not going to roll over.
They think that the UK are in denial, the EU. think they have been generous to keep the peace, and they must not endanger the fragile EU. economy.

[1carus] 06/3/2019 13:03

Alp, I agree. My main concern is now the perception of upholding democracy. If the agreement is seen as a fix by the 17m and by people who are botherered by the antics of the house, I expect there will be a lot of protests. I voted to remain. Leaving in all forms, certainly in the short term, will be worse than if we stayed in. Long term I am not sure, Europe has significant problems which are being played down. Here, money is focused to London and the South. Similarly the Eu is stacked for Germany... coincidence I think not. Both here and the Eu things need to change to spread the wealth else there will be a lot more unrest. Parliament as a whole need to be extremely careful to deliver on a brexit that is not seen as a fudge.

[alphorn] 06/3/2019 12:49

Icarus - based upon the experience of the negotiation and approval of other bilaterals that is likely, at best, to take around 5 years. This is likely to be extremely damaging to the domestic economy.
That timing is irrespective of one's Brexit views.

[careful] 06/3/2019 12:31

Brexiteers do not understand the simplest things.

Let us explain one to willoicc...now concentrate.

You must understand that we are in the EU. and have been for forty years.
You say 'the EU. are not our friends'...that is stupid.
We are part of the EU. and have agreed and influenced every rule and law decided by us all collectively. Note 'decided by us together', never them.

You all talk on this thread as though we had nothing to do with EU. law.
That is ignorant, you should be attacking various HMG parties for creating these laws if you do not like them.
They could have vetoed anything they did not like because that is how the EU. works.

That is why the EU. will not open the present agreement and change it.
Your elected Prime minister has agreed it, has have 27 other countries.

[alphorn] 06/3/2019 12:31

The FCA continues to look for another scandal. It is publishing a study on charges and late fees. It found that in “many cases” lenders were making the situation worse by applying a series of compound charges and fees.

Mainly targeted at present to credit cards ………;……̷0;……R30;……a start.

It is pretty obvious with low interest rates and the difficulty to make a 'turn' banks have to charge fees etc.

[alphorn] 06/3/2019 12:23

willoicc - perhaps they need to learn from your charm offensive?

Offensive being the operative word.

LOL's

[xxxxxy] 06/3/2019 12:22

LEAVE and WTO

Has to be.

[ladeside] 06/3/2019 12:21

Graham, you could make the same argument for our "union", we're all very different from a cultural perspective and also an economic perspective and at times we also speak different languages.......

[grahamite2] 06/3/2019 11:54

polar fox 6 Mar '19 - 07:15 - 248523 of 248550

Parliament will force the UK into a permanent customs union with the EU if Brexit vote fails, the Tory Chief Whip has warned.

Instead of a simple Brexit delay of up to three months to keep negotiations on the PM’s deal going, Mr Smith said rebel Tories would ally with Labour to swiftly take control of the Commons order paper.

The assumption that Labour will tamely fall behind the rebel Conservative remain extremists strikes me as highly questionable. Labour have a lot of seats in strongly remain areas that would be vulnerable if they took this line. Numerous Labour front benchers have threatened a revolt over Corbyn's flirtation with a second referendum - how much more strongly would the Party as a whole react to an outright operation of sabotage?

[patientcapital] 06/3/2019 11:48

Graham, I'm astonished that anyone would want such a thing. Equally astonishing is that the subject isn't given more (any in fact) prominence in the wider debate. It's as if remainers don't want to promote their ultimate objective. Duplicity in the extreme.

[grahamite2] 06/3/2019 11:41

bbalanjones 6 Mar '19 - 10:03 - 248537 of 248547
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There should have been agreed inter Country reductions in home legislative size along with meaningful transfer of legislative authority - at agreed rates and stages.

That's honest, at least, something that's been in very short supply!

You actually want Europe to become a single country, albeit a federal one. This is exactly what leavers do not want, but believe to be happening. I can see no benefit in it, and no way that it can work, given the very different cultural backgrounds of the various units that would make up this country.

[alphorn] 06/3/2019 11:39

It has also yet to invent apt descriptions of some of the alternatives.