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[stonedyou] 28/2/2019 22:54

G2 - Don`t give the "Remainer drains" facts,,,,,,,they will have nightmares!!!!!

[stonedyou] 28/2/2019 22:52

Now "Remainer drains" why would we want the,,,,, "HATED EU" mudding our waters....




MARK WALLACE Norway’s £750bn UK investment is proof we’re a great place to do

business due to our skills, competitive taxes and innovation


Unlike the scaremongers chucking out Brexit doom and gloom for ­retweets and

laughs, these are serious investors, putting their money where their mouth is and

betting that our country has a bright future


THE Norwegians are a responsible bunch.

While the UK has spent every penny of its revenues from North Sea oil and gas,

like a sailor splashing the cash on their first night back in port, our cousins

across the sea have been saving their pennies.


For more than 20 years, Oslo has been putting aside a chunk of that cash and

investing it for a rainy day.

The result is staggering: A £750billion pot — that’s more than £140,000 for every

single Norwegian.



That’ll buy you a lot of helmets with horns on — and it has helped the ­country

avoid a budget deficit, even when times were tough during the ­financial crisis.

In other words, Norway is not stupid with money.

Having taken the wise decision to save up some of the North Sea windfall, they

have worked hard to make it pay.


SERIOUS CASH

Their national wealth fund is one of the world’s biggest investors and owns shares

in 9,158 companies spread across 73 ­different countries.



So it’s great news that the latest ­decision taken by the fund’s managers is to

increase its investment right here, in the UK.

The fund has already put ­serious cash into this country.

It owns half of the Meadowhall ­shopping centre in Sheffield, and chunks of Regent

Street and Oxford Street in ­London. It is a shareholder in hundreds of ­companies,

from Greggs and ­Wetherspoons through to Superdry and Moneysupermarket.

The UK is already the third-largest destination for this Norwegian investment, and

now they’re putting in more.

It seems almost surprising, given the endless choruses of woe about Brexit and the

pathetic state of our political class in Westminster. Who would want to bet on a

country where the job of economic cheerleader is held by Philip Hammond, and

the ­alternative is an out-and-out Marxist like John McDonnell?

The answer is that the Norwegians can see what we sometimes miss about our own

country: The UK is a fantastic place to do business.


Our legal system is respected around the world for its fairness and is viewed as

a “gold standard” under which to sign contracts and do deals.

Our corporate taxes are competitive, and are set to fall further. Our location and

time zone help to make us a good bridge into markets around the world.

Our language is spoken by billions of people, and is the chosen tongue of global

business.

Our culture is one that still prizes innovation and hard work, despite the best

efforts of some Chancellors over the years.

And most of all, our people — our greatest asset — are skilled and creative, as

employers, inventors and workers alike.

It doesn’t come naturally for us to blow our own trumpets and talk ourselves up,

so sometimes it feels a bit awkward to ­consider the many things we have going for

us.

And we all love a good moan, to the degree that it’s essentially a national sport.

But we should be careful that we don’t go too far and start to talk ­ourselves down.

There’s a difference between being modest and acting like Eeyore with a hangover.

Brexit in particular seems to have driven some people a bit loopy, so that you

hear some who were once quite ­sensible now ranting about “destroying the country”

or “falling off a cliff edge”.

[grahamite2] 28/2/2019 22:35

Leoneobull 28 Feb '19 - 20:50 - 247968 of 247983
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The trouble with Brexiteers is that they always trivialize the impact of Brexit. Translation: we demand they should be scared of their own shadows like us.

And they are generally unaware of the benefits of EU membership or the costs of non-Europe. Take the single market and customs union. Massive benefits. We are leaving them. We are perfectly well aware of the benefits. The difference between us is that we are also aware of the costs, and we consider independence and freedom more important than economics anyway.

EU research and innovation programmes third largest area of EU expenditure. Biggest beneficiaries? UK universities and research institutes. What part of "we pay the EU vastly more than it pays us back" does this clown not understand? Anything whatever financed by the EU we could finance directly ourselves.

[cheshire pete] 28/2/2019 22:29

Brexit Party now the future. Tories and Labour in Parliament have shown themselves to be untrustworthy and many of the 17.4 million who voted LEAVE + some remainers now wised up to the horrendous EU, Tusk and his hell etc. will switch their allegiance. There won't be a second referendum as May will pull the pin and call a general election imho. She may well genuinely believe that she's got a good deal that delivers on the LEAVE vote and therefore stay on as leader to fight the GE. I hope she does (and we know Corbyn will still be there), as it will play into the hands of the Brexit Party.
Leave supporting MPs, Tory or Labour, could stand for the new Brexit Party. The likes of Rudd, Soubry and Cooper need not apply lol.

[k38] 28/2/2019 22:27

In other words.. euro_economy is in big hole.HSBC have made some very scientific predictions on which countries will be the richest in 2050, studying the economies of 100 nationshttps://www.therichest.com/rich-list/world/these-will-be-the-top-15-richest-countries-in-2050/

[stonedyou] 28/2/2019 22:24

If the "HATED EU" can`t win by FRAUD,,,,,,or by project fear,,,,,,,being nasty is

their next alternative!




IRELAND BREXIT ULTIMATUM: EU to enforce hard border or KICK DUBLIN OUT of single

market

IRELAND has been warned it faces the difficult choice between implementing a hard

border or being forced out of the EU’s single market in an unprecedented move to

protect the bloc from a no-deal Brexit.



Dublin will be forced to make the tough choice if Britain quits the EU without a

deal, according to a number of senior EU figures. The European Commission sparked

fury from Ireland after declaring Dublin would have to implement a hard border in

the event of a no-deal Brexit. After significant protests from, which involved a

heated debate between Leo Varadkar and Jean-Claude Juncker, Michel Barnier, the

EU’s chief negotiator, suggested “operational solutions” would have to be found in

order to prevent a hardening of the border.


But now high-ranking MEPs have hardened their position, insisting the single

market must not be compromised even to maintain peace on the island of Ireland.

Elmar Brok, a German MEP with close ties to Angela Merkel, insisted that if

Ireland failed to police its own borders the EU would have to take its own

protectionist action.

“We would have to set up a customs border with Ireland,” the German said.

[k38] 28/2/2019 22:13

Emerging countries are likely to become important foreign investors.By 2020, Russia will rank higher than Germany in the top ten economies in terms of GDP measured at PPP terms and become the fifth largest economy.Brazil, on the other hand, will have overtaken both the UK and France to become the seventh largest economy in 2020. By 2020, Mexico will have overtaken Italy to be the world's 10th largest economy by GDP measured at PPP terms. China and India have become major foreign investors in Africa One of the major reasons for the growth of emerging economies is that advanced economies are mature markets that are slowing. The economies of countries in the European Union, which include France, Italy and Germany, account for just over 20% of the world's total GDP. This is a relatively large decrease from the year 2000, when these countries collectively held over 25% of the world's GDP. The increase in average population age and rising unemployment rates is contributing to this slowdown.

[stonedyou] 28/2/2019 22:10

Lying Bob - How can you miss yourself.....

[maxk] 28/2/2019 21:53

Nurse Ratchit wont give him internet access more like.

[k38] 28/2/2019 21:47

He probably posting in other username... lol

[bargainbob] 28/2/2019 21:30

Thread not the same without Minerve.

[xxxxxy] 28/2/2019 21:29

Britain's economy is set to boom and become the largest in Europe - because of Brexit

Daily Telegraph

LEAVE and WTO

Nos da. Cymru am byth

[k38] 28/2/2019 21:15

The Agriculture Minister, George Eustice, has quit the government over Theresa May's promise to allow the Commons a vote on delaying Brexit – if her deal is rejected.He said he would vote for the Prime Minister's deal next month, but feared a decision to delay Brexit would hand control to the EU and be the "final humiliation" of the country.

[leoneobull] 28/2/2019 21:14

For what it's worth somebody at the department for international trade told me directly that nobody trades on WTO rules alone. Which backs up the previous post. WTO is just the framework. You need individual FTA, which take a lot of time.It's disheartening to see Brexiteers cheering "trade deals " that are actually copy paste extensions of existing trade deals we have through being an EU member. They aren't new.Will the last idiot to leave the village please shout?

[leoneobull] 28/2/2019 21:09

Not my post but agree with sentiment Wto rules have their disadvantages because of the WTO rule 'the most favoured nation principle (MFNP)'. Simply put unless you have a preferential trade agreement in place you must treat a WTO member the same way you would treat any of the other 168 WTO members. The EU (our largest trading partner) would HAVE to charge the same tariffs to us as they do to anyone else. If they lower tarrifs for us they must lower them for everyone.Tarrifs are not even the most significant reason it won't work. Agriculture companies are more concerned about non-tarrif barriers, such as, transportation as a result of the MFNP. WTO is a framework, it is not designed to be used solely for a nations trade. Not a single one of the 168 WTO members trade exclusively on this framework. Our trade with the US is BASED on the WTO framework, plus over 100 additional agreements. WTO would be catastrophic for however long it takes our shambles of a government to put 100s of agreements in place with EACH country we trade with.

[bargainbob] 28/2/2019 21:06

Just returned on EasyJet from Milan , full of young people . Suspect Brexit would kill this benefit as cost would go up .

[leoneobull] 28/2/2019 20:57

With armchair punditry from the economically illiterate, who needs experts, economic forecasters or analysts when people can just believe whatever they want?For they know not what they do

[leoneobull] 28/2/2019 20:51

Oh dear....

[leoneobull] 28/2/2019 20:50

The trouble with Brexiteers is that they always trivialize the impact of Brexit . And they are generally unaware of the benefits of EU membership or the costs of non-Europe. Take the single market and customs union. Massive benefits. We are leaving them.EU research and innovation programmes third largest area of EU expenditure. Biggest beneficiaries? UK universities and research institutes. Trouble is Joe Bloggs has no idea.

[poleaxe] 28/2/2019 20:36

I thought he was carrying your bags.

[bargainbob] 28/2/2019 20:25

Well just back from my Night in Milan .

I note Minerve not posting who upset him ?

[k38] 28/2/2019 19:30

Alphorn I know, the world will end on 29th...